Talk:Gezi Park protests

Politics B‑class Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
B	This article has been rated as B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Turkey B‑class Mid‑importance

	Turkey portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Turkey, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Turkey and related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TurkeyWikipedia:WikiProject TurkeyTemplate:WikiProject TurkeyTurkey articles
B	This article has been rated as B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

A news item involving Gezi Park protests was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 1 June 2013.

Wikipedia

botnet spring?

"Part of Impact of the Arab Spring"? Is it? --Akinranbu (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see no connection between this even ad the so-called Arab Spring. --Երևանցի ^talk 00:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

                            |
                            |
               |ZZzzz      /^\            |ZZzzz
               |          |68.32.107.184 (talk)|           |
               |        |^^^^^^^|        / \
              /^\       |[]+    |       |68.32.107.184 (talk)|
           |^^^^^^^|    |    +[]|       |   |
           |    +[]|/\/\/\/\^/\/\/\/\/|^^^^^^^|
           |+[]+   |01:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)01:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)01:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)68.32.107.184 (talk)|    +[]|
           |       |  []   /^\   []   |+[]+   |
           |   +[]+|  []  || ||  []   |   +[]+|
           |[]+    |      || ||       |[]+    |
           |_______|------------------|_______|3 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Protests have been held not only in Istanbul's Gezi Park, but also in Ankara and in several Turkish communities in Europe [1]. --Երևանցի ^talk 00:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple issues

The article has multiple issues, the worst of which being lack of citations for vital claims, and an obvious pro-protest POV. It has to be well-supported with citations, written from a neutral point of view, and not make arguments, such as the background section beginning with the claim of Turkey's lack of freedoms, which makes sense only if one assumes the article's writers want the reader to agree with their political conclusions. The best place to start is with citing the material that needs supporting. Then the article can be checked for neutral language. Writing an article poorly helps no one's cause. μηδείς (talk) 02:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can use these file which is taken by me.

File:Erdal Beşikçioğlu in Kuğulu Park (May 31, 2013).jpg

File:Tunalı Hilmi Street (May 31, 2013).jpg

File:Tunalı Hilmi Street (31 May 2013).jpg

Thank you.--Reality 05:21, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article is much improved now. Please help the protesters by nominating the article for ITN section on the main page. Candymoan (talk) 07:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some information needs to be moved from the lead to the timeline. The background section needs to be for issues explicitly linked by reliable sources to the protests, it can't simply be a spiel about bad things in Turkey. Generally speaking, the purpose of this article is for informing people about the event, but not promoting it. As such, information in the article, particularly the timeline section, needs to explictly focus on citable facts, and avoid POV adjectives and commentary. LukeSurl^{t c} 09:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC-)

While it possible that Turkey is using agent orange in the demonstrations, and other editors have been putting up links to "media reports," none of the media sources has yet confirmed this (CNN was emphatic about this), and it more probable that what was observed was expired tear gas. Agent orange is a defoliation agent, not a crowd-control tool.eliotbates (talk) 00:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not just Gezi Park

The protests have obviously spread to other locations in Turkey such Izmir and Ankara [2]. The current article title is misleading. Mohamed CJ (talk) 08:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a proposed alternative name? The turkish wikipedia article has the same name: http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Taksim_Gezi_Park%C4%B1_protestolar%C4%B1 Rajah (talk) 10:01, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"2013 Taksim Gezi Park protests" title seems proper. Yes, it is true that the protests have spread to many cities in Turkey but currently the sparking point is still on the 'Taksim Gezi Park'. The other cities have begun to protest to support the main protesters in Istanbul from their own locations not necessarily to move and participate directly in Istanbul.

News are pouring gradually. And wikipedia users must follow the current events protecting their own objectivity and wiki's policies.

However if this event expands to many more locations and evolves from the environmental perspectives to another ones (i.e. political, ideological, anti-government motives), then the title can be changed.

One simple example: Think that World War 1 started today. We cannot know and make any assumption that after "the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria on 1 June 2013" World War 1 started because simply, we cannot know what happens afterwards. Gradually we will learn the events and finally we will change the title as 'World War 1'.

Regards, --Toksoz (talk) 10:45, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Main Page - ITN

Petitioning for inclusion of the article for In The News section of the Main Page. Please support. Candymoan (talk) 10:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Link to the petition: Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Turkish_protests --Rajah (talk) 10:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While this is likely to be posted soon, it's important to note that ITN/C is not a petition. Mohamed CJ (talk) 14:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is no ordinary protest, this is an uprising!

You got that right. Not only in Istanbul, but almost in every single city and municipality in Turkey, people are fighting, uprising for their humanitarian rights against this fundementalist-fascist dictatoriat! Please, change the title as an uprising! Love from turkey, solidarity! We're winning! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.217.208 (talk) 22:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are barely any reliable secondary sources that use the phrase "uprising". "Protests", at this time, would be the most appropriate term. -- LuK3 (Talk) 22:21, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Due to the high tension of the events, currently it is quite normal to understand why those who say 'We are winning!'

Wikipedia is not the place where leans towards the winning side, the losing side, the moderate side or the chameleon side. Wikipedia users must pay attention on their own neutrality and wiki's policies all the time. These two motives are prime and the driving force behind the entire society to make them [ourselves] completely free and unspoilt. --Toksoz (talk) 22:37, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a how-to. μηδείς (talk) 23:08, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not Agent Orange

the agent orange thing is a rumor, and it's sourced here to CNN, when in fact it was on CNN "ireport," which is unverified first-hand reporting, and the page has now been taken down.

As the Wikipedia page to which this links makes clear, Agent Orange is a defoliant (used to kill plants, not control people) and not orange in color, is not a gas, has no use in crowd control, and does not produce the symptoms experienced by the protestors, who have been hit with a variety of forms of tear gas. Since Agent Orange has a particular and ugly history, and there are actually no verified sources of its use here (verification would actually require sophisticated chemical testing--the rumor appears to be based on some tweets and blog postings and the orange color of one of the tear gas varieties used by Turkish police), I'd prefer this claim be removed. Wichitalineman (talk) 02:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]