User talk:STATicVapor

Album cover resolution

For future reference album covers should be 300 x 300 not 200 x 200. Koala15 (talk) 18:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Well 200 x 200 looks too small in a infobox and if you tag an image to be reduced a bot reduces it at the end of the day. Koala15 (talk) 20:10, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

BISD

--User:STATicVerseatide I am a fan of 50 Cent, i have every different versions of his albums. i keep correcting what is wrong, and it always get deleted by Dan56 and now you!!!!! What can i do then? I'm just helping peaple to see truth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil' Click Kla (talk • contribs) 17:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I seriously doubt you have every single version of the album. However I now see what you were trying to do and I restored it. STATic message me! 18:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

AfD first?

When did it become the norm to go straight to AfD with a redirect, without bothering to have any sort of discussion at all? AfD should be the last resort. It's a viable search term, so deleting it is not the preferred course of action. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:29, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

No you take it to AfD if anyone disagrees with the redirect, which more than one editor have. You have now tried to redirect the page 5 times and this version is much better than the previous one. T A possible result of AfD could be redirect, which would be better than deletion. You do not just keep forcing the redirect, you just take it to AfD. I'm sorry it can not always be your way, no one is even going to be able to find a discussion on the talk page of a redirect except if it is on their watchlist. Thats why take it to AfD. STATic message me! 21:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

• It's in AfD. And if you're going to talk down to me as you did in this response, then I can see AGF won't apply. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:47, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I was not trying to talk down to you, I am sorry if it came out that way. STATic message me! 21:55, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

• To be honest, it did. When you start telling me "it can't always be your way", when neither of you has engaged in a single attempt to discuss it, even after being asked to discuss it, it starts to sound that way to me. I appreciate that you say that wasn't your intent, just explaining why it looked that way to me. Niteshift36 (talk) 22:02, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

My reasoning for saying that is continuing to attempt to redirect after you were advised to take it to AfD by both me and the other editor. AfD is the discussion when it comes to keeping/redirecting/deleting articles, not the talk page of a redirected page nobody is going to see. This way there can be more voices in the discussion, not just the three of us arguing back and forth. STATic message me! 22:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

• Again, neither of you made the slightest effort to discuss it. That should happen before an AfD. Regardless, it's there now. Niteshift36 (talk) 22:32, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

about j cole born sinner

the song was produced by science. j cole said it on the song. I can't cite it from any other source but a lyrics siteWayn12 (talk) 01:18, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Well that is original research. It must be sourced by a reliable source, if not then a producer credit can wait till the actual album is released and the linear notes can be cited. `STATic message me! 05:03, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

DJ Khaled - No New Friends

Hi,

I recently saw you've removed my edit twice on this page. It states at the end of the video it was directed by Colin Tilley and Drake. I know I didn't quote a source which is likely why you've removed the edit, but it is right there in the credits at the end of the video. A few music sites have also picked up on this too. No worries though, I know it was in good faith.

Peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellow Lilt (talk • contribs) 22:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Singles

I removed that section because those songs were clearly not released as singles but if you wanna keep false info, we can. Koala15 (talk) 02:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah i added just the ones released to itunes. Koala15 (talk) 02:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Albums

"So what? See the link. If the article is nothing except an infobox and tracklist it is not worth having an article." Nearly every album article on Wikipedia is a tracklist and infobox so that statement is inaccurate. When you redirect mixtapes that is ok but when your redirecting an album and strongly believe it should not exist you should probably do an afd for a second opinion. Koala15 (talk) 14:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Thank you for the help of the hip hop Wikipedia community! Thanks for the amazing articles! Keep it up!  11Block |talk 03:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeezus

Well thank you for including the uncredited vocals section on the album. I did notice that the back of the album doesn't include many of the features, so you were right in removing them from the official tracklist, unless the booklet (if there is one) says they're on it. I just wanted to make sure that the features were included somewhere, so thank you again! Distortiondude (talk) 18:26, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem, I was surprised no one had already since its so important he did not credit anyone as a featured artist on the album. STATic message me! 15:10, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Harry Fraud

No I'm not crazy, please be more mature when responding to another editor. The statement "many full length free mixtapes" is not true, he released one mixtape which was a compilation of songs that were already released plus an additional 10 new songs, and his only other free mixtape is High Tide which was not "full length" because it is only 5 songs. These are the only songs that are by the artist Harry Fraud, the other mixtapes and songs he is in he is simply credited as a producer. SO this brings us to the Daft Punk remix, which is the first SINGLE that Fraud has released for free over the internet, also one of his first notable songs with the incarcerated Max B. So if you do not respond with the Wikipedia rules which declare that this piece of information is not notable it will be added again to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikopowii (talk • contribs) 22:54, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

First off learn to sign your posts with 4 "~". Second, he has released many mixtapes with other artists and as you pointed out over 15 songs for free, so why would making a remix and releasing it on SoundCloud be important? If it was released to iTunes as a single, or apart of a bigger project with Montana or Max B then it would be important. The song with Earl Sweatshirt and Riff Raff was also released as a free song (it is only a single if it is released for retail) so you are wrong about it being his first free single when he has released countless before that. If it was notable, a third party reliable source would have covered it, and SoundCloud is a primary source see WP:SPS. STATic message me! 23:14, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok I agree with what you've said, thanks for clearing that up Tikopowii (talk) 23:35, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Scoop DeVille

What I added to this page was the truth as there are reliable sources on the net but I don't know how to post links on wiki. ink is: http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/06/10/scoop-deville-britney-spears-travis-barker-eminem/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.203.121.232 (talk) 12:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Just add <ref></ref> to the article and put the URL in between the ref tags. This leaves out the confusion of me thinking the information might be false. STATic message me! 14:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

List of hip hop musicians

Hi, STATicVerseatide, you will like this list. 12.168.46.153 (talk) 16:28, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

ASAP Ferg

I agree that Billboard sometimes use the sales figures for both versions of the song for one charting, they did it with "I'm a Flirt", however, I'm pretty sure Billboard will always denotes the featured artists, and on the charts, "Work" credits Ferg as being the sole artist, not like when the remix of Meek Mill's single "Ima Boss" charted, which listed all the featured guests [1] And I've actually only heard the original play on the radio, but then again I don't listen to too much radio.--User: 1Sire talk 03:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Complete sentences

Not intending this to be patronizingly simple, just informative. Complete sentences. The subjects, objects and verbs in WWE 2K14 are fine. It was only the irrelevance I chopped. The article's not about the gaming media or when they get press releases about things and "confirm" them. It's about the game with The Rock on the cover, and Jim Ross voice-acting. You know? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:49, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Are you arguing that the section looked better with only about 10 or less words? I improved the flow of the section and made it look much better. The section was written as if it was in bullet points. As with all reveals or announcements that date should accompany them. Not so much with the JR one, but definitely about the announcement of Rock being featured on the cover. STATic message me! 04:58, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

If more words makes something better, I could add a hundred more from those sources and really "improve" things. Wouldn't make any of them relevant to development of the game, though. Not sure what flow means to you, but I feel the sentence stumbles across useless info, when it should be concise and direct to the point, as the Manual of Style says.

Why do you feel the date of the cover announcement is more important or relevant than the voice-over announcement? Would the cover be any different if it was announced earlier or later? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:42, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

I see you've already beaten me to the "improvements". Apparently, who announced the notable thing and where are important, too? I hope that was just a pointy edit, not a genuine one. If you're serious, please explain. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:48, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

The announcement of who is featured on the cover and when it is announced is important and not "pointy" at all. This article is probably one of the shortest Wrestling related articles on Wikipedia so why make it shorter? I do not understand your logic. What you included were extremely short sentences, not proper english and written as if in bullet points. I do not why you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill when the article looks better now than it did before. For example in the development section of the WWE '13 page it also details exactly when, who and how the cover was revealed. STATic message me! 05:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I didn't ask whether you think it's important, but why.

The article is short because there is either very little info on a yet-to-be-released game, or our editors haven't found it yet. If we want to expand it, we should try to find substance instead of puffing it up with words (see WP:TERSE and WP:TOPIC). If that's all the substance we can find at the moment, that's how it is.

I'm trying to keep this a molehill, you're escalating it by restoring twice as much as I removed. If WWE '13 could use some work, that's a separate issue. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:06, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Well it is clear it definitely needs expanding, but that does not mean would should trim it down to the bare minimum. This is definitely not puffing up the article as it is just a longer sentence, not a whole damn paragraph. There is no reason to not include the information, and instead include a fragmented sentence. You are definitely turning it to a mountain accusing me of being pointy when im just improving the article. It not that WWE13 needs work, its that this is proper notable information that should be included. I would not be surprised if 85% of sports video game articles have some information on the cover athlete being chosen. STATic message me! 06:21, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The difference between longer sentences and a whole damn paragraph is only in quantity, not quality. Still filler, however much. That's the reason not to include it. You haven't even tried explaining why it's notable or relevant, only that the article needs more words.

I didn't accuse you of being pointy, just said I hope that edit was. Seems sort of confrontational, adding twice as much back after I halve it. But yeah, maybe you just really like wordiness and genuinely don't understand what a sentence fragment is after reading that link. I'll assume good faith.

Other stuff is WP:OTHERSTUFF. If 85% of sport game articles are puffed up, that's another issue. All of the NHL 2K game articles (and all but one NBA) just say "So-and-so is featured on the cover". No who, when, where, how it was announced. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:15, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

I am going to stop responding, since you clearly do not understand (or want to understand) the point. I never said it needed more words, I am clearly adding mentionable, verifiable content from a reliable source. It would only be puff if the article contained more than two damn paragraphs. The edit was not meant to be confrontational one bit and you should start assuming good faith. "The Rock will be featured on the cover" is a fragment, and any high school graduate should know that a sentence can be wrote much better than that. 07:32, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it's verifiable, but so is stuff about The Rock's career and family life. Would it be relevant or notable here? Shame you'll stop responding, because I'm still curious about why you think this is any better. I can't miss the point if you don't make it. And if you don't make one before you stop responding, why wouldn't I revert?

I assume good faith, and that you honestly don't understand sentence fragments. Maybe this link will be of more use to you than the last. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:11, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

And not to be a dick, but it's "written", not "wrote". I wouldn't even point it out if it wasn't in a sentence about writing sentences. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:16, June 18, 2013 (UTC) .

About this, you weren't right about anything. It was totally irrelevant in a Development section, but not in Marketing. But yeah, the JR bit is better in the lead, until there's more to say about Development. Thanks for fixing that. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:20, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Is that what you were arguing about the whole time? I did not care one bit about what the section name was, just that the information deserved to be there. STATic message me! 14:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Different Masterings on Yeezus

As you saw, I put in the notes how there are 3 main masters of Yeezus: the physical, the US digital, and world digital. Yes, I did cite a forum, but it seems important enough to put as a note that there are differences in the different versions of the album, and I have no other source but my own ears and the forum. Any suggestions on how to include it? Distortiondude (talk) 01:56, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

you edit.

may i say y did you edit Mike Posner infobox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XmaxX1212 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

There was way too many genres as we are supposed to keep it specific and trimed down. Also there were way to many Associated Acts, the section is only for SIGNIFICANT artists to his career (making an album together, going on tour together, countless collaborations) stuff like that. STATic message me! 14:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Action Bronson

Hi. I'm not sure why you think it necessary to include details such as the medium by which an album released is announced. Since the album in question has actually been released all that is needed to be included is that it came out, and perhaps when. Announcements in the run-up (unless they are particularly notable) are not really relevant Otherwise, it reads as "person said a record is going to come out and then that record came out". Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 10:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

No, you removed large amounts of notable verified content without giving a appropriate reason, which you still have not. You are lucky I did not give you a warning for it. STATic message me! 14:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with you about what is notable here. For instance the text reads "In May 2013 he announced that he was moved to Atlantic Records and his collaboration album Saaab Stories with Harry Fraud would be coming soon...... Saaab Stories was released digitally to iTunes and Amazon.com on June 11, 2013. The album was entirely produced by Harry Fraud and featured guest appearances by Raekwon, Wiz Khalifa and Prodigy." This can easily be condensed to something like "In May 2013 Action Bronson moved to Atlantic Records.... Saaab Stories, an album produced by Harry Fraud and featured guest appearances by Raekwon, Wiz Khalifa and Prodigy, was released in June 2013." We don't need to know that it was released on iTunes and Amazon - it's not notable. We also don't need to say both that the album released was announced and then that the record came out - it's basically the same information twice.Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 09:01, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

It could be, but you removed much more information then you should have from the article without giving a good reason. It is worth mentioning about be released only to iTunes and Amazon since it was not released in stores as a CD. I will fix it now. STATic message me! 15:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

deadmaus/deadmau5

Hey just an FYI. I saw your edits on the deadmau5 page. There is currently a discussion regarding his name on the talk page. We have requested a move of the article's title. Feel free to join. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 15:01, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

EW

So, you actually think "EW is a way more prestigious reviewer" than COS, fine. But, Fact magazine is more prestigious as being a music magazine than EW and Pitchfork could ever be, so I will be replacing either Pitchfork or EW with Fact. By the way, NY Daily News is more reliable than say The Fly, which is another music magazine. See, I trust music magazines first and foremost, which EW is just anoter generic entertaiment magazine. To me, it goes music magazines (i.e. Fact, The Fly, Rolling Stone), music webzines (i.e. Allmusic, Consequence of Sound, Slant Magazine), newspapers (i.e. The A.V. Club, The Guardian, USA Today), and then entertainment publications (i.e. Entertainment Weekly). We are in fact talking about music, so music-based publications are more reliable and prestigious than just a mere entertainment ones. Sorry, but I judge things to a way, way, way different standard.15:11, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Praxis Makes Perfect is an example of my work.HotHat (talk) 15:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

The reviews should be based around the most prestigious and known reviewers. Also they should be in WP:ALBUM/REVSIT. Another way I could put this, Los Angeles Times, New York Times, The A.V. Club, USA Today, Entertainment Weekly would definitely go before Fact or The Fly. Hell other music magazines such XXL, Spin and Vibe would before those. When it is a high profile album with 30+ reviews we do not include low profile reviewers such COS, Fact or Fly. It just happened that I was the one to revert it, the COS review would have not been there for long. STATic message me! 15:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, we as a music community need to debate this to see what way we go with respect to these. Because, I do not agree with you on this matter in the least. So, you would use USA Today over say Mojo or Uncut, which does not make any sense.HotHat (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Definitely I do not know how that is clear. USA Today is a nationwide newspaper that has ran daily for 30 years, compared to a magazine that has been around for 5 years and one that has been around for 15. This might be just a culture issue as by your choices i'm guessing you live in the United Kingdom. As I said even the music magazines I listed are still considered more prestigious reviewers than the ones you are listing however they are not even used. When we are kept to only 10 reviews we cannot really have lower lever music magazines when so many major newspapers review the album. STATic message me! 16:17, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I guess we just will never see eye-to-eye on this, so I am moving on.HotHat (talk) 19:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Grand Hustle Records

T.I. said on 106&Park that they are signed to the label, and said Iggy was still signed to the label months after that was added to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ACBContent (talk • contribs) 00:08, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Well you need a reliable source not just claim a random ep of 106 said that and Facebook is worse then not putting a source at all. Also the new YouTube source cannot be used as it is a copyright violation. Keep in mind "Hustle Gang" and "Grand Hustle Records" are two COMPLETELY different embodies. One is a record label and the other is this supposed group. If you think about it if she was a member of the label why would she be credited as featuring on "Memories Back Then" which Kendrick Lamar was credited as a main artist on. She also made I think one appearance on the Hustle Gang mixtape. STATic message me! 00:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

T.I. said it in a interview that Hustle Gang and Grand Hustle are the same thing check online he said it's just another way to refer to the label like YMCMB to YonngMoney and Cash Money.Look below T.I.'s new videos on Vevo like MemoriesBackThen,With Me, and Doe B's Let Me Find Out Remix, it says HustleGangMusic as the label it's the same as GrandHustleRecords.

Hustle Gang is the same to Grand Hustle as Rich Gang is to YMCMB. If it is hard finding a reliable online source that she is signed to the label, which means she probably isn't. Just find a reliable source that says she is on Grand Hustle Records and she can easily be added like that. STATic message me! 01:36, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Here's a link http://rollingout.com/music/artist-interviews/grand-hustles-newest-artist-kris-stephens-talks-new-single/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by ACBContent (talk • contribs) 02:27, 20 June 2013 (UTC) And Rich Gang is different as they include non-labelmates T.I. said HustleGangMusic is just a different way to refer to GrandHustle.

I had seen that but did not read it. I will go ahead and add her back to the article now. STATic message me! 02:55, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

NXT championships in WWE template

Yikes. After I added the NXT championships to the template of WWE Championships, I now see that a whole new template has been created for the NXT championships that also lists the defunct FCW championships. As such do you think we should undo the addition of the NXT championships to the WWE template? Starship.paint (talk) 05:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Of course there is lol. Maybe we should know but is there really a point for the NXT template, when the "promotion" has not been around that long and most of it is based on FCW. I mean I personally think it is better to list them in the WWE Championships template, rather than having the other template at all considering it is mostly based around a defunct promotion. STATic message me! 06:13, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Kanye West & GOOD Music

I do not understand why Kanye West could not be signed with the label as he has founded the label. Jay-Z has founded Roc Nation and he releases his own albums on Roc Nation. Lil Wayne founded Young Money Entertainment and he releases his own albums on Young Money Entertainment. Thank you for reading this message and please respond! :)  11Block |talk 00:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell he did not sign himself to the label, and release his own music under it as other have done like the ones you mentioned. Another example would be the The Game founded The Black Wall Street Records and his albums are not released through the label. Just to double check it I read the inline notes of both my copies of 808's & Heartbreak and MBDTF, and neither of them credit GOOD Music only Roc-A-Fella and Def Jam as the record labels. STATic message me! 00:11, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for responding to my message, I really appreciate it! Also, thank you for taking time out to actually look through those two albums to find that specific information. Bye!  11Block |talk 01:46, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem at all, see you around! STATic message me! 01:51, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Born Sinner - J. Cole "Crooked Smile" Sample

Hello.

I know the name of one of J. Cole's original sample that he used for a track off of his new Born Sinner album, but you have deleted my contribution from the page.

What can we do so that this dosen't happen again? You can't say that we need sources, as the other sample names have no links attached to them.

Thanks.

Is it credited in the album linear notes? I am pretty sure all the samples in there are already listed. STATic message me! 07:13, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Re: Promotional single, "Christmas in Harlem"

I'm well-aware of the three-revert rule – I understand that I've undone the edit three times, and I have no wish to start an edit war, so from here on I'll cease to do so. If I've annoyed you regarding this, then I apologize. I hope to get this resolved as conflict-free as possible and hope that we can work together constructively in the future. A talk page discussion to determine consensus regarding this issue is the best way to handle this. Cheers, Holiday56 (talk) 16:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

An award for you!

	The Jimbo Wales Happiness Award
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Nothing Was the Same

I found the "confirmed tracks" for Drake's 3 rd album on Facebook and looks real official.

WP:FACEBOOK is not a reliable source and is a WP:SPS. Was it even on Drakes Facebook? That would be the only way to make it true. Most reliable sources are citing those as songs that will not make the album. STATic message me! 19:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Ralph Folarin

Has it ever occurred to you that Ralph Folarin sounds a lot like Ralph Lauren? Its a nickname that has taken on a life of its own. Like the article also says, he was born with the first name, Olubowale, or Wale for short. So, "Wale" is not a fake name, as you asserted. I very clearly remember back in 2008 when Wale started using the name Ralph Folarin as a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ropo153 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

I do not know what Ralph Lauren is? Yes he was born with that name and I believe he changed his legal name to "Ralph Folarin". If you see here [2] his writting and production credits on the album The Gifted are credited as such. You have yet to cite a a single source at all that his legal first name is "Wale" or ANYTHING for that matter. Also please learn to sign your posts with four "~", you know because it is not like it does not tell you enough already. STATic message me! 01:08, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

The link you gave also credits a "Wale Folarin" as the Executive Producer. And on his last album he was credited as "Olubowale Akintimehin" [3]. Either way, I'm pretty sure artists can credit themselves however they want on their albums; I seriously doubt that they need to use their legal names on production notes. Also, Ralph Lauren is this guy: [4], Polo brand clothing is his creation.

Apologies for forgetting to sign my previous comment, but why the attitude? I didn't chew you out for putting a question mark after a statement. Ropo153 (talk) 02:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit Advice : Non Discussions

Hey, seeking advice: On this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lloyd_Banks&diff=next&oldid=561695259

I left this pointless statement alone, can we just delete those sort of things, rather than having to put it into an archive I guess? Just the documentation scope doesnt sometimes scale down to really quite pages. Or maybe I just getting it wrong.

Reply here is fine thanks.

Thanks for your time.

Jcislowski (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah if the post is not about improving the article then there is really no point in being there, especially just little dumb comments. If you see WP:NOTFORUM anything that falls under that is up to removal from the article talk pages, this would include fan posts/hater posts or various comments on the subject. STATic message me! 21:38, 26 June 2013 (UTC)