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Threshold of originality and countries of origin

See Template talk:PD-signature and Template talk:PD-ineligible, where we are discussing whether the threshold of originality licensing templates should either match {{PD-signature}} in requiring an check of the country of origin to see if it complies to the PD standards of that country or not, or match {{PD-ineligible}} in not caring if the country of origin's rules of the threshold of originality (or special copyright protections) is met or not, only using the US standard, and whether the template should be so named to indicate that only the US standard has been checked. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 03:47, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. 144 Squadron RAF

This article has been tagged and blanked for copyvio since 11 May, and a re-written version (hopefully avoiding copyvio problems) has been sitting at a temporary talk sub-page here since 12 May - this is almost 2 months. Can someone please have a look at the rewritten draft and either restore it to mainspace or put the article out of its misery.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:14, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Editintro for fiction articles?

I'm sick of cleaning up plot summary copyvios, particularly on [BT]ollywood movies. There have been no less than ~~eight~~nine CCIs this year (Snigdhasinghsweet, Tamravidhir, 20130409, 20130424, Arrwiki, Shipz, Madhuric, 20130702, Vlad4) on this subject. This calls for at least some preventative measures.

The idea is, if an article contains a heading "Plot" or "Synopsis" or is titled "List of [...] episodes", an ugly notification will appear above the edit box in a similar manner to Category:Living people. This requires modifying MediaWiki:Common.js, so it will likely need a wider audience. Before I do so, I would like to get some feedback on whether I should proceed and some proposed text. Thanks.

P.S. where is everyone? MER-C 04:49, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That would probably be best. I've noted that plot and episode summaries in general are ripe for copyvios since people either don't know how to write them or don't want to. Wizardman 14:17, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not copy and paste plot summaries from other websites.

Wikipedia policy requires that plot summaries must be expressed in your own words. If you believe a plot summary is copied from elsewhere, either remove it or flag it for further attention using {{copypaste}}. The Manual of Style contains advice on how to write a plot summary. For more information, see Wikipedia:Copy-paste and the copyright policy.

Some draft text. MER-C 06:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me! I've done this on an ad hoc basis (usually just using {{plot2}}) especially with television summaries, since this is a rampant problem. The note above doesn't mention the derivative issue, but it contains a link to the MOS, which at least indirectly does. This is far less of a problem I've encountered than the simple copy-paste, and the proposed template is more eye-catching than plot2. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Moderate support.

On the positive side, this is a real problem. I hope and believe much of the problem arises form pure ignorance of the rules. The message is reasonably worded (avoids telling them they are about to get blocked) yet gets the point made clearly and succinctly.
On the negative side, it feels terribly ad hoc. It will be delivered to all who edit such an article, so maintenance editor,s copy editors, category adders, and the like will now see a message that isn't intended for them.
More importantly, if an article does not have such a heading, and an editor adds it, will that editor get the message, or only subsequent editors? If the latter, then it may miss precisely those editors in the intended audience.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 13:12, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The CCIs show that editors copying plot summaries have edits to fiction articles that do not add plot summaries, so the message should get through (this is one of the weaknesses of the current BLP edit intro -- it does not show when I am creating a BLP). It should always show for the "List of [...] episodes" articles because it is based on the title of a page, not the contents. I agree that this does not completely solve the problem due to the limitations of editintros, but hopefully it will cut down on the number of repeat infringers. "[M]aintenance editor,s copy editors, category adders, and the like" will be seeing this -- I consider this a feature, it might rope them into copyright cleanup. MER-C 07:04, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This can also be done with an edit filter, which can detect addition of the relevant headers and shows the warning when the "Save Page" button is clicked. However, the Edit Filter request page is rather dead. I, personally, would use both approaches. MER-C 03:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seems reasonable in principle to me, but the details still needed to be worked out.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone for an edit filter request for now, see Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested#Plot summary copyvios. MER-C 12:42, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Images - Copyright

Some users here might be interested in the discussion ive started:

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Australian_Images_-_Copyright

-- Nbound (talk) 07:47, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]