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List of LGBT slurs

References are a retarded mess. Lots of books like "Green" referred to without actually providing info as to what frigging book it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.250.21.152 (talk) 15:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:58, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of LGBT slurs → List of LGBT slang – Some of these aren't even slurs. And more importantly with a new title, we can incorporate LGBT slang, as that has no list, and very few examples.relisted--Mike Cline (talk) 15:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC) CTJF83 13:10, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would rather have this article deleted.

It serves no encyclopedic value and is acting more as a VIZ dictionary for offensive terms.

Thanks Jenova20 13:19, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I want to transform it to more slang terms Twink (gay slang), Bear (gay culture), Gaydar, and other words on Template:LGBT slang CTJF83 13:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Still doesn't seem that notable to me.

I support your requested move though and am glad you are working on the article rather than expanding on the current list of offensive insults.

Thanks Jenova20 13:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also don't see any encyclopedic value in the list as it now is. It can be deleted in its entirety with no loss of important encyclopedic information. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 14:00, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The slang may have encyclopedic value as the LGBT community relies heavily on it and it's documented everywhere, especially the examples CTJF used.

List of racial insults could probably be deleted easily though.

There's a few more like List of ethnic slurs etc

Thanks Jenova20 14:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please stick to discussing the renaming proposal. If you feel it should be deleted, take it to the proper venue. Thanks, CTJF83 14:08, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Transwiki to wiktionary as an appendix 70.24.244.248 (talk) 05:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Please clearly state Opposes/Supports and avoid discussion of deletion in this discussion. If deletion is desired, please WP:PROD the article or take it to WP:AFD. --Mike Cline (talk) 15:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support as a more neutral term. Paved with good intentions (talk) 13:29, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested Move

The article in current state is a list of slurs, not slang. I would like it moved to List of LGBT Slurs so that this article space is free for me to create a List of LGBT slang. As the lede and article are currently clear, "The following is a list of LGBT slurs" - not slang. The article cannot be expanded to incorporate both as it is currently formatted and written. Please post up some responses before i start the process of a requested move. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 12:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should look at turning this into the list of slang with a section devoted to slurs and point out how sometimes they overlap. Insomesia (talk) 13:48, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think slurs is more accurate than slang for most of these terms, although there is a gray area of overlap. I support Jenova20's plan of creating a List of LGBT slang article (sans slurs), keeping in mind that there is already an LGBT slang article. I also support copying the slur and slang terms to Wiktionary. - Mr X 15:02, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

After reading your responses does anyone have an issue with me instead merging the two (slurs and slang) into the same List of LGBT slang article? Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 15:11, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am opposed to moving slurs to the LGBT slang article as I think it's out of scope. I think it would be better to move the (incontestable) slang terms to LGBT slang and then move what remains in this article to List of LGBT Slurs. - Mr X 15:26, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And so splitting the article into two? With the removed content being the non-slang slurs? Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 15:30, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sort of, but reverse it. What I had in mind was taking the few, clearly slang terms out of this article (List of LGBT slang), for example terms such as 'Queen', and moving them to the existing article, LGBT slang. Then rename/move this article to Listggf LGBT Slurs (your original proposal). Many of these terms are equally as offensive as terms like porch monkey, WOP or kike, and clearly don't belong on a list of slang terms. - Mr X 15:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But, because there is overlap i just planned to move the slurs into their article and add more to the slang. Terms like queen are used by both gays and homophobes, while words such as chink, wop, negro and faggot are used exclusively by racists and homophobes. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 17:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see. I guess that would work also. - Mr X 17:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Faggot, is a good example of why one article may work better. It's a common slur yet usage - such as Dan Savage's long running syndicated column uses "Hey Faggot" purposely to reclaim the word. I think this is common with many (Most? All?) of these slurs. Insomesia (talk) 20:17, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I considered that as well and it's a valid point. It largely depends on who uses the terms, and how they are interpreted. In my mind, something that starts as a slur and is later reclaimed by members of the LGBT community, is still a slur for purposes of an encyclopedia article. A good example would be nigger/nigga/niggah: it would never occur to me to consider these slang terms, but I suppose there are people who would consider them slang. - Mr X 20:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an easier alternative then: merge the lot and then we can remove anything, which is only a slur and not reclaimed or slang. It'll be easier when we can see the result. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 09:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd counter that generally I don't think any should be removed but simply sectioned as commonly seen as slurs. I'd be willing to bet you can find someone who has reclaimed every one of those in some way. Insomesia (talk) 13:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it's a merge then. Thanks for the input ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 13:04, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request

May we add that some of these are rather offensive? 216.195.228.107 (talk) 03:28, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially anything is offensive to someone or something, that should go without saying. Doesn't "Slang" also convey that the word or phrase may be controversial and/or offensive? Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ^(email) 09:35, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopaedic Value of This Page?

Someone above said:

"I would rather have this article deleted.

"It serves no encyclopedic value and is acting more as a VIZ dictionary for offensive terms."

I agree. If this page stands, then we might as well import the whole of Roger's Profanisaurus into pages such as "List of slang terms for sexual intercourse", "List of slang terms for an unpleasant person", etc. 212.159.102.166 (talk) 16:39, 29 November 2013 (UTC) KJN[reply]