User talk:Gilliam
Carl Sagan
" Hello, I'm Gilliam. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Carl Sagan seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page."
I"m not sure how to use this page, so I hope I'm responding correctly. You are of course correct in that the integrity of Wikipedia, a very good source of information, relies on the knowledge that the source material is neutral. Many things are empirical, and many things are a matter of opinion. Certainly your point about my edit to Carl Sagan is valid. I did however, feel that someone like Sagan was so universally revered, so magnificent, wonderful, inspiring, and influential, that we could reasonably say it was a properly basic truth that he deserves the title "The Great." It's a debatable matter. But some things are so clearly universal, they appear past the realm of opinion and enter the realm of true ethical knowledge. "Murder is wrong" is an example of a statement that we cannot prove, that we might say is opinion, but everyone of normal moral architecture agrees with. Was Carl Sagan worthy of "The Great?" While opinion, I feel it is not too dissimilar from the statement above. Maybe it isn't something we ought to put on an encyclopedia page. But I still wanted to try, so that the world could come to know how wonderful he was.
Hi. Would you be able to add Edwin T. Earl's picture in the external link to wiki commons and to his page? Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Popular/People´s party
Hi Gilliam, basiclly, is not correct the translation, in spanish "People" is "Gente", and "Popular", is "Popular". If the party name is "Popular Party" I think that is more correct than "El Partido de la gente", that is the meaning of "People´s Party". Thanks.
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Please notice ip 111.243.0.198 , 114.39.7.129
Hi , Please notice, ip user 111.243.0.198 and ip 114.39.7.129 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/111.243.0.198 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.39.7.129, Vandalism a lot of articles , please stop these ip user , thank youMBINISIDLERS (talk) 08:53, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- It appears they're not vandalising per se but reverting. Please see WP:AN3 if you feel they have, for example, violated the WP:3RR rule. Cordially, Gilliam (talk) 08:57, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Carneal/Elmwood
Check NRIS, which is available in Wikipedia-formatted form at http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php. Go there and put the reference number, 72000541, into the lower form field. You get the following data:
Name: Elmwood Hall Location: 244-246 Forrest Ave. Ludlow, KY Year of construction: 1818 Date added: August 7, 1972 Governing body: Private Architect: Carneal, Thomas Architecture: No Style Listed Other names: Thomas Carneal House Historic function: Domestic Historic subfunction: Single Dwelling Criteria: architecture/engineering Number of acres: 9 Number of contributing buildings: 1
NRIS does make errors, but it would be the extreme situation if all of the NRIS data were wrong. Rather, I would suggest that the article is conflating two separate houses. Look at the Ludlow house's National Register nomination form; it notes that Carneal constructed the house in 1818, two years after he'd built Covington's first brick residence. With all of the documentation given by the nomination form, I'm confident of the NRIS data, and I'm rather inclined to strip out all information related to and derived from the National Register documentation, on the grounds that it's about a different house entirely. Do you agree, or do you think a different action is better? Nyttend (talk) 12:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Two additional things. (1) I overlooked your second comment in which you've already wondered if two separate houses are conflated. (2) See entry ky0079 from the US government's Historic American Buildings Survey. It's unambiguously in Ludlow, and File:Elmwood Hall entrance.jpg is definitely not the same image as this one from Cincinnati Memory. Let's just delete the NR-related information from this article, since its subject is not NR-listed. Nyttend (talk) 12:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- And...yet more information. The house on Second is NR-listed, but not by itself. It's the first contributing property mentioned (see page 2) in the ridiculously short and generally unhelpful nomination form for the Riverside Drive Historic District (a district like this, if listed today, would get far more extensive documentation; see the 170 megabyte nomination for the 2013-listed Sadieville HD near Georgetown, Scott County; it's 110 pages for a district that's overall much less significant!), and that document unambiguously supports a bunch of what's in the article, including the construction year and the Palladian influences. Nyttend (talk) 12:57, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Now I'm seeing your latest comment. I'd advise against covering both houses in the same article, largely because it could be almost as confusing as the current situation. The house in Ludlow is definitely notable and can stand to have its own house. It definitely looks as if the house in Covington is notable, but if you're uncomfortable with having a separate article on it by itself, we could merge it into the Riverside Drive HD article. I don't think that much work is needed — we'd overload the Riverside Drive article with this one, especially since we apparently have some yet-unused coverage in the Guide to the Queen City and Its Neighbors. Let's just remove the errors that I introduced into the Covington house's article and replace them with a special contributing property infobox, comparable to the one at Salem United Church of Christ in Over the Rhine. The coding is a little weird, but I'll be happy to add the infobox myself if you think that the right course. Nyttend (talk) 13:07, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Old infobox deleted and new infobox added. Is this the house located at the southeastern corner of Second and Kennedy? Google Maps placed me there when I typed in the address, and it looks somewhat like it on Street View, but I'm not sure. Please fix the coordinates if it's actually located at a different place. Aside from that, I think we're done, aside from your photo. Please remember to add it to Commons:Category:Historic districts in Kentucky, Commons:Category:National Register of Historic Places in Kenton County, Kentucky, and the construction year categories as well as the obvious ones for Covington, architectural style, and brick houses in Kentucky. Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Now...since you've been up since at least 2AM, go to bed :-) Nyttend (talk) 13:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- See Elmwood Hall (Ludlow, Kentucky). Nyttend (talk) 23:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting link, and thank you. I've long wondered why they designated two of the district's buildings as an NHL and delisted the original listing, but now that I see that the Aviary was destroyed and that the cabin was moved away, I'm beginning to understand why the original listing was removed. Would you be able to come up with a source for its removal to Sharonville, which I could add to the zoo structures article? I haven't visited the zoo since my grandfather took me there circa 2000, so I wasn't aware that it had existed at the zoo, let alone wondering about its current location. Nyttend (talk) 13:40, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks; I'll add it immediately. I didn't even know where to look; I didn't want to use something from the village itself (see the history of its article; they've been spamming us!), and all of my normal sources are either printed books or other hard scholarly or governmental sources that don't generally mention this kind of thing. Nyttend (talk) 14:17, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting link, and thank you. I've long wondered why they designated two of the district's buildings as an NHL and delisted the original listing, but now that I see that the Aviary was destroyed and that the cabin was moved away, I'm beginning to understand why the original listing was removed. Would you be able to come up with a source for its removal to Sharonville, which I could add to the zoo structures article? I haven't visited the zoo since my grandfather took me there circa 2000, so I wasn't aware that it had existed at the zoo, let alone wondering about its current location. Nyttend (talk) 13:40, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- See Elmwood Hall (Ludlow, Kentucky). Nyttend (talk) 23:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Now...since you've been up since at least 2AM, go to bed :-) Nyttend (talk) 13:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Old infobox deleted and new infobox added. Is this the house located at the southeastern corner of Second and Kennedy? Google Maps placed me there when I typed in the address, and it looks somewhat like it on Street View, but I'm not sure. Please fix the coordinates if it's actually located at a different place. Aside from that, I think we're done, aside from your photo. Please remember to add it to Commons:Category:Historic districts in Kentucky, Commons:Category:National Register of Historic Places in Kenton County, Kentucky, and the construction year categories as well as the obvious ones for Covington, architectural style, and brick houses in Kentucky. Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- Now I'm seeing your latest comment. I'd advise against covering both houses in the same article, largely because it could be almost as confusing as the current situation. The house in Ludlow is definitely notable and can stand to have its own house. It definitely looks as if the house in Covington is notable, but if you're uncomfortable with having a separate article on it by itself, we could merge it into the Riverside Drive HD article. I don't think that much work is needed — we'd overload the Riverside Drive article with this one, especially since we apparently have some yet-unused coverage in the Guide to the Queen City and Its Neighbors. Let's just remove the errors that I introduced into the Covington house's article and replace them with a special contributing property infobox, comparable to the one at Salem United Church of Christ in Over the Rhine. The coding is a little weird, but I'll be happy to add the infobox myself if you think that the right course. Nyttend (talk) 13:07, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- And...yet more information. The house on Second is NR-listed, but not by itself. It's the first contributing property mentioned (see page 2) in the ridiculously short and generally unhelpful nomination form for the Riverside Drive Historic District (a district like this, if listed today, would get far more extensive documentation; see the 170 megabyte nomination for the 2013-listed Sadieville HD near Georgetown, Scott County; it's 110 pages for a district that's overall much less significant!), and that document unambiguously supports a bunch of what's in the article, including the construction year and the Palladian influences. Nyttend (talk) 12:57, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Manav Bhardwaj
Hi Gilliam,
Thank You for your message but I did not make any changes to Pilkhwa (or whatever it is)!!
Thanks,
Manav — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.112.129.194 (talk) 12:16, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Help stop this!
Hi, thanks for looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Washington_Court_House,_Ohio -- someone keeps deleting Fayette Advocate under "media" and Derek Myers under "notables" even after sources have been given. I believe they dislike Myers so that's why they keep deleting it. Please help stop this! It's just an IP address, no user ID.