Talk:Castleknock

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General editing

This article has suffered a number of recent (mostly anonymous) vandalism changes. I suspect these are mostly school kids using the page for a form of silly graffiti, but I don't believe warning the talk page or isp's is an effective solution in this case. I suggest the page be set to semi-protected temporarily until this storm of nonsense passes. I'm not hugely experienced in how to do this so I don't think its as simple as just adding a protect tag to prevent unregistered users adding garbage? Perhaps some more knowledgeable Wikipedian can help solve this please. G. 17:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And more recently....sometimes a bit of obvious "vandalism/trolling" can provide a view of the watchers! (Sarah777 01:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Tidying-up. Article a bit stagnant, needs a section on Localities and maybe housing areas, incl. Deerpark, which does not need its own article. SeoR (talk) 06:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name

The Gaelic word for "hill" is "cnoc". This is not the same as "Chnucha". Even the grammar would tell you that. If it was truly the "castle oif the hill" it would be rendered "caislain an chnoic". Instead, it is a reference to a proper noun - a person - Cnucha. So it really means the "castle of Cnucha". (Laurel_Lodged 09/02/2010

Updating article

I agree with SeoR - the article was a bit stagnant. What a pity that SeoR seems to resent any changes to the article though, as petulant editorial deletions can only ensure to it's on-going status of back-water. Where philosophical differences of opinion in the direction of the article arise, would it not be more gentlemanly to engage in a scholarly debate before pressing the delate button? The original article in it's opening paragraph rightly set out Castleknock's dual role as suburban village and barony. Nothing indicated that either should take precedence. Therefore there is as much merit in listing the location of the barony (and it's constituent townslands) as the village. And what were the grounds for the deletion of those community services so vital to the life of any village (e.g. the GAA, the tennis club)? Are they any less vital than the state body that anomolously remained? I look forward to hearing from SeoR (pronounced "shore"?).Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philosophy? Not sure where that comes in but as a former resident of Chapelizod, I observe the Mount Sackville School thing with interest. Castleknock the village (the topic of this article from its creation) and Castleknock the barony (which runs to Finglas, and so is obviously a totally different thing) do not share the article. I don't know about any other editor, but I would certainly not stand in the way of a Barony of Castleknock article! What I do know is that sticking a list of townlands (some familiar, some meaningless today) high in the article was bad format, and out of line with guidelines, just as someone else went sticking long population lists on many town articles. I have followed the previous editor's guidance and moved this list (which is of genuine historic interest) to footnotes. I don't quite know what the GAA / tennis thing is about, as these items seem to be stable in the article - but if you refer to deletion of the massive set of links, this list was entirely out of line with policy, and needed culling. And no, no idea how you pronounce SeoR - they've been around a few years, with busy and quiet spells, but tend to background editing and assessment. 194.237.142.20 (talk) 09:31, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coming back to this over coffee, I looked at Coolock to compare approaches, and again there is a mention of the barony, but that is all. As for the other baronies, Balrothery has more issues, as modern Balrothery (the only one most people know) is a tiny village, while there are two like-named Baronies, East and West. And then Uppercross and Half-Rathdown are not really covered in Wikipedia at all. I can see room for brief articles on all, or a general article on Baronies of Dublin - but in line with the aim to be accessible, and to reflect WP:Common (common usage), the main article on each of Dublin's suburbs and areas should be about just that, as now met, and with a reasonable, proportionate, bit of history. 194.237.142.20 (talk) 11:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on my Talk Page talk. I will check the edits mentioned above. SeoR (talk) 12:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on his Talk Page talk. I will abide by your recommendations. Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Updating or Destructive criticism

Why did 178.176.0.194 come along and delete a bunch of content without reasonable discussion or obvious reason? I don't wish to edit the article, but perhaps one of the more recent editors may wish to review this. --DubhEire (talk) 16:21, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

after double checking it would appear that things were just moved around, but that wasn't shown when comparing across multiple edits. Mt bad. --DubhEire (talk) 16:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see so much editing - I had seen a 194... but this 178... also seems to have helped, especially on making it tidier and tight. I do not see any further editing I wish to do right now. Good, getting late. SeoR (talk) 22:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Population

I have inserted the population from the 2006 census:

   Greater Dublin Suburbs in Fingal, Castleknock-Knockmaroon    17,115

   Greater Dublin Suburbs in Fingal, Castleknock Park*          4,342

I used the numbers above, which totals 21,457. Does anyone beg to differ. The data can be obtained from CSO.ie --DubhEire (talk) 15:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good. Knockmaroon would usually be seen as part of Chapelizod (this is arguable) but that's the problem with the way population stats are done in Ireland. On balance, the number seems about right. 109.188.202.186 (talk) 18:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sport

The assertion that St. Brigit's GAA is one of the largest in the country. By what standard - square footage of playing fields? Supporters? Number of active members? How is any of this to be verified? Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I note that a link has been made to the club's website in the reference section. I suppose this was made to bolster the cliam. It says that it is one of "the finest in Ireland". This is a subjective statement. It makes no clain to size and is, in any case, not verified by external sources. I think this claim needs a ^{[citation needed]} tag. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC) You spelled Brigids wrong, fuck the bogys and Thomas's we're one a the biggest clubs in North Dublin if not the biggest you could just say that. laurelol[reply]

Images

Not a single picture of this supposedly picturesque village? DouglasHeld (talk) 07:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barony, parish, townlands

The barony details belong in Barony of Castleknock, not here. Whether the civil parish details belong here is also questionable. Assuming it stays here, I think the table of townland names is overkill and takes up a lot of space. I suggest dropping the Irish names and just making the townlands a one-sentence list. jnestorius^(talk) 16:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You may be right about the barony detail. I think that the table is quite neat. I was also thinking of adding columns for acres & other notes. The single sentence would be unattractive I think. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:57, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]