User talk:Dpapa187

Speedy deletion nomination of A.G. Leventis Nigeria Plc

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A tag has been placed on A.G. Leventis Nigeria Plc, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an acceptable page. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this page is not blatant advertising, . Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You are welcome to edit the page to fix this problem, but please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. As well as removing promotional phrasing, it helps to add factual encyclopaedic information to the page, and add citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the page will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mean as custard (talk) 09:55, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I think you are mistaking what Wikipedia is and what it isn't. Wikipedia is not social media or a directory where anyone can have a page. It is an encyclopaedia. Not every person or company will get an article here. For companies, you need to read WP:CORP which is our policy on notability for companies. Then read WP:RS about the reliable AND independent sources you need to provide to prove the notability. I have deleted the article mainly because you did not show any notability, but Mean as Custard was correct in tagging for advertising or promotion. We do not want articles that say things like "BloggsCo is a company in Houston that makes widgets. For more info please visit bloggsco.bix.br". That lookse like a way of getting people to BloggsCo's website - and that is promotion. If we have an article about a company, it must tell about the company (without being promotional), it must show that the company is worthy of a place in an encyclopaedia, and it must be referenced outside the company website. Sometimes articles slip through, or there are articles about companies in the same line that do pass our policies. - please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. We catch up with the ones that don't belong sooner or later. Peridon (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK understood. Could someone help me write this article in the way that it shoulD?

Please find it at my drafts... don't know how to share it with you....

Could you please check this page and approve it please?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dpapa187/A.G._Leventis_Nigeria_Plc

I've done a rough draft of my work and article. Please feel free to edit and comment so i can get a clear picture on what i have to do next? .. How do i get this published?

Hello, Dpapa187! I had a look a the draft in your userspace, which is here. This will never be accepted as an article, for two reasons. The most important problem is that it is entirely cut-and-pasted from other sources. This is a copyright violation, and Wikipedia is very strict about not allowing copyright violations. The second problem is that the conglomerate does not appear to pass Wikipedia's criteria for a business to be included here. The rule is that the company must have been written ABOUT by independent third-party reliable sources. Every reference you have in the article is from the company's own website, so they do not count for notability. I did find a Bloomberg profile but by itself that is probably not enough for notability. However, it seems like there ought to be a place here for a large company like this that is is nearly 80 years old. So I have a suggestion for you: instead of trying to get a standalone article, which will probably not fly, write a paragraph about the company (in your own words mind you! and with independent references like the Bloomberg link), and insert it as a section in the article about its founder, Anastasios George Leventis. Write the draft paragraph in your user space (in place of the article draft you have there), and let me take a look at it before you add it to the article about Mr. Leventis. Once that is in place, you can create a redirect under the name "A.G. Leventis (Nigeria) Plc"; then if people click on the redirect it will lead them to the article about Mr. Leventis. Let me know if you would like to pursue this option and I will help you with it. By the way, I notice that you tried three times to insert the name of the company into the article List of companies of Nigeria. Don't do that! Making the same edit three or more times is called edit warring. That's a no-no here and it can get you blocked from editing, so don't do it. --MelanieN (talk) 14:27, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Your new draft

Hello, User:dpapa187, and thanks for showing me your new draft. It is much better written than the first one; you have put it in your own words and taken care of the copyright violation problem. But the other problem remains: lack of independent references. According to Wikipedia's requirements for an article about a company, there has to be significant coverage about the company from independent reliable sources. The only outside reference you have is Bloomberg Businessweek, and although that's better than nothing, it will probably not be enough for the company to be considered notable. It is not significant coverage, in the sense of independent sources (newspapers and such) writing ABOUT the company. I could not find any coverage like that in a search. Can you find anything? We need articles about the company, from newspapers or other independent sources (not press releases). If you can find and link to news articles about the company, that is what it needs. If you have examples of coverage but don't know how to link it, let me know and I will help you. Because I have a hunch that this company does deserve an article, if we can just find the coverage to support it.

You can submit this article if you want, but I have to warn you that it will probably get speedy-deleted again for lack of independent references. As I said before, even if there is not enough coverage available for a standalone article, you could put a paragraph about the company into the article about Mr. Leventis without anyone objecting.

Also you need to read Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy. You are not forbidden from writing about your own company, but it is discouraged. You have done a good job of writing an article which is neutral and not promotional. But just because you "need to get this out for the company" doesn't mean that Wikipedia is necessarily going to accept the article. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and it has its own standards for inclusion. Please explain that to whoever is telling you to write a Wikipedia article about the company.

You can reply here on your own talk page; I will see it. That way we can keep our conversation in one place.--MelanieN (talk) 13:12, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

dpapa187

Ok Melanie, thanks, will find those links, i do believe there is a few i can find. Thanks for your help :)