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To do list

To get this draft in shape, we need to do the following:

Expand the Mariupol section. I know more happened there, so let's fill it out.
Grammar and fact checking
Addition of an infobox (civil or military conflict?)
Fixing of references

RGloucester — ☎ 16:22, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded the Mariupol section--Arbutus the tree (talk) 00:49, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move

Maybe this should be moved to 2014 insurgency in East Ukraine? The current title is too long imho. Lunch for Two (talk) 14:36, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We need to be WP:PRECISE. The insurgency isn't in Kharkiv, which is part of eastern Ukraine. RGloucester — ☎ 14:59, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PRECISE says an article name should be precise but not too precise. East Ukraine is precise. Donestsk and Luhansk is too precise. World War II had very little fighting in South America, for example. This doesn't mean we can't call it a world war. So why should Kharkiv not being in an insurgency mean we can't say 2014 insurgency in East Ukraine? DylanLacey (talk) 11:10, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Undefined references

@RGloucester: I notice that some of the references apparently are invoked, but never defined, meaning you say <ref name="foo">. Since you appear to be the one who added the references (or I guess you could have segmented certain things from other articles)... In any case, it would be nice if I could just know the URLs, otherwise, it will be necessary to hunt for new sources. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll transfer them. They came from the DPR article. RGloucester — ☎ 14:58, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay; thanks! That will be helpful. Dustin (talk) 15:00, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Towns and Cities

I have recently created a map that clearly shows cities under DPR, LPR and Ukrainian Control. I used a wikimedia commons image of the donetsk oblast nad labeled the cities in gimp, the file on commons says it is public domain and not copyrighted. Is this okay? Or do we already have stuff about this?--Arbutus the tree (talk) 00:13, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you can present a reliable source for your map then I am happy to update the map I uploaded in May as it is currently used on a number of wiki pages. Lunch for Two (talk) 16:45, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some sources Lunch for Two: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27018199 And other ones I used were the Kyiv Post, Al Jazzeria, BBC, CNN, Euronews, Globe and Mail, and CTV. --Arbutus the tree (talk) 20:23, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the map if you want to see more: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Situation_in_the_Donetsk_Oblast.png

/response to the previous comment/ It's rather hard to illustrate current state of affairs. You'll need to update this map daily, as situation is changing every day, for example the map as of today - it's in Ukrainian, but hopefully understandable: http://www.slovoidilo.ua/uploads/news/ff8969658b1da527c9e50048a5dfea5b.png