Talk:Aquemini

Reviews

Rapreviews.com and Rap Pages are professional review sites as is Warr.org. Why are they being removed from infoboxes?

---Dan56 12:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Fair Use

I do not think "Fair Use" applies to this copyright album cover. It could get the Wikipedia project into trouble to use it. Caltrop

I think the part of this page that describes each song in detail needs to be edited. It doesn't really convey the professionalism or objective viewpoint I see elsewhere. Since I'm new, I thought I would give someone a chance to respond before laying in. Monkeyfacebag 22:29, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

I found it fascinating but lots of original research needs trimming out. I might have a go some time. Soo 18:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

What is wrong with the bold text on the second song? I can't seem to fix it at all.

Fixed it!

Silly Inclusion

"Though Stankonia and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below would be more commercially successful, many fans view Aquemini as OutKast's definitive album."

First of all, Stankonia and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below are quite clearly more popular than Aquemini; "Commercially successful" isn't a euphamism for less hip, and if certain albums are more popular than others, there's no reason to state that "many fans view Aquemini as Outkast's definitive album"." People who view this as their best record exist, I'm sure (although they probably tend to favor it since it wasn't a pop hit), but there's no reason at all to include this point in an encyclopedia article since it's obviously POV and there's no citation for it either. It's another subtle way of adding POV to an article.

The track-list is stanking brilliant!

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RS 500

Wasn't this one on the list?? The Person Who Is Strange 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

USA Today review

Transcription using Google News Advanced News Archive Search. USA Today (Jones, Steve. 04.D. September 29, 1998) review of Aquemini (1998):

Outkast, Aquemini ( * * * 1/2) No one ever could accuse Outkast of having a hole in its hip-hop soul. In fact, funk just oozes from this latest set by the Atlanta duo of Big Boi and Dre, whose molasses-smooth raps speak to the stark realities of urban streets. And with the hard-driving, Southern-fried grooves provided by live studio musicians, these songs not only make you dance, they make you sweat. As on its first two albums -- 1994's Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and 1996's ATLiens -- Outkast stays way shy of the usual hip-hop beats and cliches. For this pair, originality is always in style.

— Steve Jones

Dan56 (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011

Since Allmusic have changed the syntax of their URLs, 1 link(s) used in the article do not work anymore and can't be migrated automatically. Please use the search option on http://www.allmusic.com to find the new location of the linked Allmusic article(s) and fix the link(s) accordingly, prefereably by using the {{Allmusic}} template. If a new location cannot be found, the link(s) should be removed. This applies to the following external links:

• http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A5vsyxddb1old

--CactusBot (talk) 19:15, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Release dates

From Martin C. Strong's book ([1]) Feel free to ask what certain signifiers and labels on the page mean. Strong has a key in the book somewhere. Dan56 (talk) 22:33, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

No problem, copied the dates for the first and third single from CD Universe. As for the second single, Google Books won't give any preview.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 15:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Aquemini/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: JennKR (talk · contribs) 01:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

I'll review—I think you have waited long enough and I have nearly all of OutKast's studio material. —JennKR | ☎ 01:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

On hold while some fixes are addressed. Best, —JennKR | ☎ 02:38, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• Capitalize the "k" in OutKast in the first sentence (Note: this consistency runs throughout the article).
• I'm unsure whether zodiac should be capitalized or not, the article on zodiac does not throughout.
• "Aquemini expands on the previous record's outer space-inspired compositions by incorporating live instrumentation." Is that the only way it expands on the outer space inspired compositions of ATLiens? I feel like this could be expressed better.
• "development of the songs on Aquemini" → "development of the album's songs"
• "Lyrically, Outkast explores various themes" → "Lyrically Aquemini explores various themes"
• "It was ranked as number 500" → ranked at number 500 may be better.

Background

• "spacey, futuristic personas" I understand this as someone familiar with their work, but I think it needs revising (although I'm aware it's difficult to phrase this). In fact, you quote "more bohemian than ghetto" shortly after and this is saying a similar thing, but more eloquently.
• I would say Erykah Badu was more neo soul than R&B, consider including this.

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Recording

• "camped out" → perhaps lived and worked?
• "the duo utilized" → "used" is better.
• "For the record, Big Boi undertook the responsibility of crafting the songs' hooks, while André 3000 involved himself with the album's production." A hook is still part of the production, unless you mean a lyrical hook? Revise this so it reads that Dré did most of the production, while Big Boi crafted the hook.
• "After a long discussion that was sometimes fiery," → "After a long, heated discussion"
• "While recording Aquemini, André 3000 drew influence from reggae music..." This sentence is awkwardly placed, consider mentioning it earlier in the section.

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• I think its redundant to mention their budget again, instead work Big Boi's comment with the second sentence about which instruments were used as I think these link nicely.
• "Other subjects include excessive reliance on technology and the Atlanta club scene. Another theme is the..." I don't think this reads as well as it could, it becomes list-like. Work these "other subjects" into the earlier part of the section.
• Replace "utilizing" in the last sentence.

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Songs

• "Aquemini begins with an introductory track entitled "Hold On, Be Strong," → The comma after "Be Strong" should go after and quotation mark. Also consider changing to "Aquemini begins with the introductory track "Hold On, Be Strong",...
• "Following is "Mamacita" ← put a comma here
• "who at the time as an inmate in a Georgia prison" → Do you mean was an inmate?
• "The track an introduction to "Liberation" Do you mean is an?
• "the legitimacy of the Southern hip-hop scene" could this be expressed better?

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Release

• "the latter two" → "they" would do just fine.
• Include an internal link to the American court case: Rosa Parks v. LaFace Records.

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Critical reception

• "called it "breathtaking in its ambition makes most rappers seem drab and doltish in comparison." Taken out of context, this reads wrongly.
• "these songs not only make you dance, they make you sweat" I feel like including this bit means your summary of the review strays from how the record was received.
• "submersion into the baptismal waters of the African American musical continuum" Again, this isn't telling me much either.
• as "loud, unpretentious, eclectic kick in the ass". → as a "loud...."
• "of the "100 Best Albums of the Nineties" made by the same magazine." Remove "made" its superfluous.
• Paste named the album → "Paste called" may be better.
• ranked at #50 → at number 50
• Capitalize the e on ego trip—WP ignores stylistic choices, and this is as the start of a sentence.

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 10:16, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Legacy

• For consistency, make the two infoboxes you use in this article the same color.

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

References

• There is inconsistent formatting here, the journal/magazine/newspaper is sometimes linked and sometimes not. The corporate publisher is sometimes linked and sometimes not. For example, Ref #3 (AllMusic) and Ref #7 (Billboard). Go through all of the references to ensure consistency.
• Ref #42 (The Source) doesn't work.
• Ref #59 (Uni o/Michigan) links to a Google Search and needs fixing.
• Ref #65 (Grantland.com) is perhaps not the most reliable source of music journalism (and plus, you already have two acceptable sources).

Done! DepressedPer (talk) 09:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.