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here is his persian name:"تریتا پارسی" I can't edit this Article so you have to add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.127.0.248 (talk) 22:36, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with this Article

The NIAC section violates various polices, including WP:COATRACK, WP:BLP, and WP:Attack. --Kurdo777 (talk) 08:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(1) Criticisms of NIAC do not belong here per WP:COATRACK (2) Coverage given to the criticisms of the book should be porportnaite to the fact that 90% of the reviews given to the book have been positive. Devoting half of the book section to the criticisms of a small right-wing minority, is a violation of WP:undue. (3) Hassan Daioleslam does not meet the requirements of a WP:RS. Additionally, he is in the middle of a defamation lawsuit with NIAC and Trita Parsi. Therefore, he can not be used as a source on National Iranian American Council and Trita Parsi per WP:COI. --Kurdo777 (talk) 14:43, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Parsi is the Director of NIAC and is at the center of that controversy. Therefore, it does belong. And where is the page that says FrontPageMag is not an RS? I can agree with you on undue in the book section but you can't delete the lobbying controversy section.Plot Spoiler (talk) 16:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Plot SpoilerWell you should porid a source better that FrontPageMag? By the way, this is a biography of a living person. we need to be extra careful about what we put here. I agree with Kurdo, the detailed issues about NIAC don't belong here, and your source, Hassan Daioleslam , is not a reliable source. Please also remember that in BLPs the criticism should not overshadow the rest of the article. See the WP:BLP.--WIMYV? (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, but I am still waiting for evidence to be produced that neither FrontPageMag nor Daioleslam are reliable sources.Plot Spoiler (talk) 19:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion pieces are not considered reliable sources. Also, Hassan Daioleslam is the middle of a lawsuit with Trita Parsi, and he a member of MKO. Therefore, he is not a reliable source. Either way, it's up to you to prove he is a WP:RS if you insist on using him.--WIMYV? (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Mr. WIMYV on this one. I think some critisim is OK, as long as it doesn't overshadow the rest of the article, and turn it into an empty shell about the NIAC stuff. Looking at thhe history of the page, I think the latest current compormise version by Mr. Kurdo, which incorportaed some of the criticisms about NIAC in its own section, in a way that doesn't go beyond the norms of wp:undue, and wp:blp is good compromise. --Wayiran (talk) 13:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it looks pretty good for now.Plot Spoiler (talk) 18:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trita Parsi´s Zoroastrian family...

I have had my doubts about Trita Parsi's alleged Zoroastrian origin for years. There is only one article as a source and it basically states the same sentence as in the Wiki article without any sort of elaboration, proof or any comment. Nothing else can be found on the net in this regard and nobody from the Zoroastrian community has ever confirmed this statement. Very odd. Zoroastrianism hasn't traditionally been a religion open to outsiders, we normally (and until some 15 yrs ago almost exclusively) marry within the community. And as such, if Parsi's family were truly Zoroastrians, then his parents would be known to the tiny Zoroastrian community of ca. 20'000 people in Iran - alas, this seems not the case. He also doesn't look Zoroastrian (but rather like a local Arab from the SW of Iran - although strictly speaking, this doesn't mean he couldn't be a Z - there are always untypical members in a group). But what seems to me the most striking indication that his Zoroastrian roots are probably a fabrication is the fact that his background story (anti-Shah father, his political associates, his lobbying for the Reformists' camp of the Islamic Republic, his Moroccan wife etc.) does not fit even a very modern Zoroastrian's profile (to name but one example, the general Zoroastrian attitude towards the Shah was extremely positive in the 60's and 70's and still is and it is a very, very rare exception for a Zoroastrian to have been imprisoned for political opposition during the reign of the Shah - this fact alone would make his dad an extreme exception, now add the other "coincidental" exceptions...). I mean, if one of these facts were given, okay, but all of them seem to point towards something fishy. I presume presenting himself as a Zoroastrian (and hence a non-muslim) draws away attention from his lobbying activities for the Islamic Republic. Until additional, more explicit and elaborated sources or a statement from the Zoroastrian community appear, I suggest removing the sentence about a Zoroastrian family background.

Also, note that the NIAC page states that "his father was a non-muslim" (it doesn't mention Zoroastrian) http://www.niacouncil.org/about-niac/staff-board/dr-trita-parsi/

And finally, his Zoroastrian roots are doubted in this article (Persian): http://www.fravahr.org/spip.php?article482

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