Talk:Killing of Tyler Cassidy

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Shooting details

Hello,

This first experience with wikipedia and the editing/"talk" facility. I have placed a couple of edits into the "Shooting" entry for the Tyler Cassidy. You keep altering the text to indicate that four police officers fired at Cassidy. This is not so and I have attempted reflect this. Judge Jennifer Coate (The Victorian State Coroner) indictates her findings that only three of the four police officers fired at Cassidy. I can confirm this. (I was there.) I would hope that you would either change the entry to show this or allow my edit to stand.

Warm regards.

-- moved from my Talk page -- Johnfos (talk) 11:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I checked my source and you are correct, so your edit stands -- regards Johnfos (talk) 13:02, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Knives

Reworded "stolen from a nearby shopping centre", as acording to the herald sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/teen-tylers-night-full-of-rage/story-fn6bfkm6-1225943915697) they were purchased from a k-mart, not stolen.

Also added in that he was first sprayed with capcicum spray to no effect, also mentioned in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.250.51 (talk) 13:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I checked the Herald Sun article, and it doesn't say that Tyler purchased the knives, only that he brandished them in front of staff. According to the inquest they were "very publicly" stolen, so that seems consistent with the Herald Sun's coverage. I agree that the capsicum spray should be mentioned, so I've returned that to the article - both the Herald Sun and the Coroner's report mention it. - Bilby (talk) 11:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

how large is a large knife?

many articles state that tyler stole two large knives and these knives were used to goad the officers into acting. K-mart is a department store. they don't really tend to sell large or specialty knives. basic steak knives and simple chef knives. not bad per se but not something terribly threatening in a knife fight and not something longer than a police baton which could have been used to disarm him. so is there any information apart from the police statements about these knives? brand? length? essentially the "TWO GIANT KNIVES ALL UP IN MY FACE" argument has been used to justify lethal force but i'm not even sure any knives were recovered? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.224.192 (talk) 09:06, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: The knives are described in the exhibit list as "Wiltshire black handled knife" and "Black handled knife (3 rivet). They were confirmed by the Coroner as being large kitchen knives easily capable of inflicting injury or death. A summary reading of the Coroner's finding shows that the knives were secured at the scene by the attending members and handed directly to investigators.

No argument was put forward by counsel for the Family that police should have deployed their police batons in the circumstances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.25.230.150 (talk) 11:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did a lot of work on this article and dont appreciate it being reduced back to a stub

I will be going back through edit revisions and adding the many news article references and surrounding circumstances. this article has become extremely biased in favor of victoria police. while the coroner found that the officers were not responsible, it became apparent that victoria police did not provide adequate training. particularly, "cordon and contain" procedures were unknown to the police officers who understood this procedure to mean approach and intimidate. furthermore, the "related articles" are just insulting. yes this incident was about the death of a mentally ill teenager. however, as the article currently stands, this does not reflect the seriousness or explain the cause of the incident.