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A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thanks again for all your help with the sockpuppet investigation. Much appreciated! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:24, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I'm just fed up with the whole Shaga socks/IP thing. All they needed to do was actually interact with other users on their other account, and they'd probably have got unblocked. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:07, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

Go have your argument elsewhere

Sir, thanks for investigating and understanding that I am not linked to Pakistan's Military. Just because I happen to have interest in military history, and unfortunately, being unaware of Wikipedia's username polices, I had a user name that misled some (although that username was not controversial, still I had it changed) to wrongly and at times deliberately believe that I am a member of Pakistani military and thus a certain user here have resorted to IP edits and have accused me of CoI in the past. Now, that I have changed my username after understanding and reading the polices here, I still was reported that too by an IP with fewer than 10 edits (9 of them were edits that accused me here). I must say that you understood the mischief behind the report and made the correct discussion. Thanks. —TripWire talk 12:10, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, there was 0 evidence and looking at the page, it's a clear content dispute, which should be resolved at article talkpages, not a WP:COIN, as no-one has an actually COI. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to bug you again, but the same users even after seeing your decision are continuously accusing me here. Despite repeated clarifications they instead of discussing the topic at hand are continuously shifting the focus of discussion towards me as a user. Even to the extent that after they have seen the result of the CoI Report, one user has still added a WP:COIN tag to me and still is openly accusing me. Even the IP that reported me is back and have started again with the accusation after the CoI decision. I am getting fed of these accusations. Is there a way that I can formally request an admin intervention or report them so that they could leave me alone? Seriously, it wont be possible for me to edit freely if I would be constantly harassed and receive personal attacks everytime I would join a discussion. Please advice what to do. Thanx—TripWire talk 14:08, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am IP user You admit to being in Pakistani army [3] I took screencaps to prove before page deleted. 82.11.33.86 (talk) 15:07, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is exactly the sort f arguments I don't want to get involved in, go have your argument elsewhere. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:22, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

Hello Joseph2302,

I have a question about the page I've tried to create. In the comments to help to develop the article you wrote "Needs more reliable sources to show that the corporation is notable enough". Does it mean if the company is not important enough it can't be on wikipedia ? I'm a little bit because I've edited two articles on the french and german wikipedia and there is no problem. It is also the first time that I use wikipedia and

Thank you

~~TitusKreyenberg~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by TitusKreyenberg (talkcontribs) 12:11, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Every language Wikipedia has different rules/guidelines about what can have an article and what can't, English Wikipedia requires evidence of significant, independent coverage from reliable sources (books, newspapers, magazines, web content) about them, see WP:GNG. This submission doesn't show this, as [4] is a primary source, [5] only shows they exist, [6] and [7] only link to websites not specific articles. If there's good sources used in the French or German version then they can be used. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Tag

Aman az Eshgh (Javad album) has been deleted, try creating a page about Javad first

Because of Chyst album aman az eshgh--5.232.3.83 (talk) 14:20, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand, please communicate in English. Also, there is no evidence that the album is notable, and Javad Ramezani doesn't even have a Wikipedia article. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:23, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I tell you my source and the photo I want to please you Chyst remove him with Selena Gomez. Please do not remove thanks to a joint album.--5.232.18.212 (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

replied at your talkpage, this isn't good English, so I cannot understand it. And I doubt this album is linked to Selena Gomez. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:46, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I put the pages.[1][2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.232.18.212 (talk) 14:54, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

Pretty sure neither of those are reliable sources, but you can add them to the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is a more reliable sources. [1][2] [3]

References

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference chron1 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ (2011년 11월 2일). [1]
  3. ^ Bylin, Kyle (2011년 12월 2일). [2], 빌보드 (잡지) ("15-year old singer Javad Ramezani spends his third week on the tally, leaping 37-28 thanks to steady flow of YouTube views and new fans.")
Add them to Aman az Eshgh (Javad album) then, rather than listing them all here. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ooops! Don't think he was quick enough Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 15:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Great job with stop vandalism, keep it up and carry on stopping vandalism. Jamie Welford (talk) 16:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:08, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article rejected due to referencing

Hello, you recently rejected my article on the grounds of inproper referencing. I made sure to get numerous reliable third party references so am unsure as to what I can do to improve the sources used. Can I get some tips as it is gradually improving but referencing is letting me down.

What did you make of the content?

Blorange2 (talk) 09:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edwise International

I've deleted Edwise International twice as spam. I haven't done so this time since I noted your involvement, but I have some concern that this version describes what they offer, but appears to lack basic info like how they are funded and how the money is spent. What do you think? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:04, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I accepted it because lots of the sources about it, such as [9], [10], [11], [12] are good reliable sources about it. I do kind of agree that more basic information would be helpful, but I don't currently have much time to look for more source. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:44, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Today's articles for improvement weekly vote

  • Hello Joseph2302:
This week's voting for TAFI's upcoming weekly collaborations has begun at Week 28 of 2015. Thanks for participating!
Sent by Northamerica1000 using mass messaging on 20:47, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Clenzoil

Blocked now

Joseph2302:

We have never written an article for Wikipedia before this one. However, we have both written hundreds of articles for magazines, periodicals and other media.

If you can provide us a more useable version of what we are allowed to post on this site, please help us in that regard. We have now edited our first attempt and now have a new version saved. Can you review that and see how it looks for us?

Please advise.

Regards,

Authors Clenzoil (talk) 21:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted, so I guess not. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:01, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sea Oleena

I will add more. Thank you. --Thahouseusers2015 (talk) 00:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Thahouseusers2015: I've moved it to draftspace Draft:Sea Oleena for you to work on. Once it's finished, I'd recommend submitting it for review by adding {{subst: submit}} to the top of the draft- this allows you to get feedback on it before it's published. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me edit

Bossladylife (talk) 09:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)I would like to know if you can please update Rena Mero aka Sable from WWE wiki page, quite frankly as a huge fan of hers I feel she see deserves to have a newer much more updated picture than the one displayed on her page & I am new to wiki so i can't do it myself if you would be so kind as to do it for me I'd be very appreciative! Bossladylife (talk) 09:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Bossladylife: The problem is that most pictures of celebrities are copyrighted, so Wikipedia cannot use them- you can't just go on the web, find a picture you like, and add it to Wikipedia, like you tried to do. In order to use a newer picture, you would need to find one that isn't copyrighted, or where the copyright holder (usually the person who took the photo) gives permission for it to be used. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:01, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of that but it is also very difficult to find a picture that is not Copyrighted and that's why I was asking you because you seem like an experienced wiki user and you seem like you'd be a great help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossladylife (talkcontribs) 10:10, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can have a look when I have time, but it's highly likely no free-to-use photos of them exist. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:17, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

page creation

hi Joseph, I got your note about not creating a page about myself, which trust me, I totally get. I am asked to have a wikipedia page about myself for a work related issue. I don't like to talk about myself, let alone create a page for me. So that's my conundrum, I need to have one to get some things done with work, it's a requirement. What do I do in this case? I do not want to break any rules here as they all make sense. Yet I need to have this page here. Advise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabl0godoyestel (talkcontribs) 01:20, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Pabl0godoyestel: I highly doubt that you "need" to have one for work. In any case, unless there is actually significant, independent coverage in reliable sources about you, per WP:GNG, then it won't be accepted/kept anyway, regardless of how much you claim to need it. Note that Wikipedia is not a social network, see WP:NOTASOCIALNETWORK, but an encyclopedia, so any article about you would have to be neutral tone and well sourced with reliable sources, rather than a promotional/marketing page. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Joseph, I totally agree with you and will only be happy to not have this page. Will copy and paste your message to get off the hook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabl0godoyestel (talkcontribs) 01:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Glad I could help, seems like you didn't actually want an article anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:07, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please take another look

Hello! I am leaving this note for you because you participated in a deletion discussion about the Wikipedia article titled Institute of Continuing Education. I substantially expanded the article today (for the helluvit), and would appreciate if you would take a look and see if it’s better than when you last saw it. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 03:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Changed my vote. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deltapath was recently recreated by another user. currently, a Sockpuppet investigation is open see here. if you are interested please check them. thank you :) Nicky mathew (talk) 11:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it's a duck to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:15, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:39:39, 18 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by RisenFall


Hi Joseph2302, thanks for your comments. I was wondering if I have enough citations now - I have 12 news sources. As you know I am a newbie : ) and I am worried that even comments like 'He sculpted a cheetah head and went back to the UK determined to sculpt full time' require a citation, even though they make no material claims about the sculptor other than the fact that his love of Africa started him working again, something that is evident in his many interviews. Thank you for your kind response. RisenFall (talk) 11:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@RisenFall: Had a quick look, and all those sources look good. I'll have a proper look when I've got more time. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's very reassuring thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RisenFall (talkcontribs)

@RisenFall: So they've got coverage in some of the UK's biggest papers, and some other sources, including a UAE paper. I believe this is enough to pass WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Joseph2302, brilliant! Thanks for assessing and passing the article so quickly. Is there any way I can show appreciation for your help? RisenFall (talk)

Quickie - Software-Defined Enterprises

Replied

Hi,

I have spent quite some time reviewing the guidelines and have resubmitted. I have left in the code stating that the previous submission was rejected, should I delete it so people don't think this version has been rejected even though it says "Do not remove this line!" Thx!69.165.139.137 (talk) 13:04, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Decline message and comments- removed as messing with templates on this page
@69.165.139.137: No, you should keep the previous rejection and all the comments about it, it helps the next reviewer know what needed improving before, and whether or not it's been fixed. The reviewers will know it hasn't been rejected again, as the "review waiting" box is at the bottom, which means it's also on the list of submissions to review. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MetaProp NYC article speedy deletion

Hi Joseph2302,

The page I wrote up, MetaProp NYC, was speedily deleted and I'm not sure why. Can you please let me know what needs to be changed and how I can get the editing for my article back so I can fix whatever it is that made it deleted.

MetaProp NYC is the #1 real estate technology accelerator that recently opened applications for its 2015/2016 class of 8 startups. It has been in the news: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/16/metaprop-nyc-launch-idUSnPn7lMxdB+89+PRN20150616?irpc=932 . It also has its own website, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

Please let me know what I have to do to make MetaProp NYC's Wikipedia page public.

Thank you, Slyandvert Slyandvert (talk) 22:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Already explained, WP:NOTADVERTISING, and I didn't delete it, someone else did. Also, you shouldn't be writing advertising for your company, see WP:COI. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:16:59, 18 June 2015 review of submission by CS at Sensis

Advice given


CS at Sensis (talk) 23:16, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for taking the time to review my submission - would greatly appreciate any feedback about how I could improve the article for potential resubmission. Reading back over it I definitely understand your point about it seeming too much like an advertisement, but we're a little unsure of how to proceed. Would it perhaps be better if it was just a very short (stub-like) article with a few facts?

CS at Sensis (talk) 23:16, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well from what I've seen, the company is in no way notable enough for a Wikipedia article, per WP:GNG and WP:CORP. Plus they already have a section in the Telstra article, which seems adequate to me for a company that doesn't seem very notable. Either way, writing it like a marketing brochure isn't going to help at all. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:20, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
One of the main reasons we wanted to create a separate article was because we are no longer associated with Telstra any more, and without trying to sound condescending, I would argue your view of our notability. (A quick Google News search shows we've been in plenty of news articles recently) If, however, that doesn't satisfy the requirements for notability, I completely understand and will instead just update the disambiguation page. But if you think we do fit the requirements for notability, I am of course happy to organise a complete reworking of the article to comply with neutral language. CS at Sensis (talk) 00:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Don't touch the disambiguation page, it's not for your company, it's for companies with Wikipedia articles. Also, with a tone of writing like the last submission, any article will never be accepted. Cut the marketing rubbish, and stick to just facts and reliable sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:42, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have two User accounts

User MdmPaj and Bfpage are one person. I use MdmPaj primarily on the Haitian Wikipedia and Bfpage on the English Wikipedia. No need to revert. Best Regards,   Bfpage |leave a message  15:25, 19 June 2015 (UTC) and MdmPaj[reply]

Fair enough, happy editing. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, you are fast. How did you catch that edit?
  Bfpage |leave a message  15:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It was listed on newbie contributions, [13], which I happened to be patrolling at the time. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:30, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Jones Williams

@Shawn in Montreal: I've deleted the article space version, since it contains copyrighted text absent from the draft. It will need a history merge when it is moved back Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:37, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimfbleak: Are you sure it would need a histmerge? If the draft just gets move back, then I think it has all the history, except for the copyrighted text. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, saves me remembering (: I've left a message on his talk page to clarify the rules and offer help Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:53, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Upward Sports/Editing Question

Hi,

I definitely did not mean to be a nuisance at all when inputting edit requests for Upward Sports. Through a Wikipedia handbook for how PR agency people are supposed to engage, I thought the talk page was the appropriate place to suggest edits. I'll refrain from multiple requests in the future.

Please let me know if there is a more preferred way to suggest edits to the page (or any page) in the future and if there is anything we could do with the page to keep it live. I realize the brand is not notable in the U.K but it is very notable in the U.S., especially in the southeastern part of the country.

Thank you!

Drewhawkins2 (talk) 19:23, 19 June 2015 (UTC)drewhawkins2[reply]

It is the preferred way to make COI edit requests like you did, but there only needs to be 1 of them at a time- you posted 3 of them, making it incredibly difficult to actually read the text. Requests are fine, but you only need to add the {{edit notice}} once to the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You flagged SmileCareClub is stand-alone, as covered in reference articles. Subject has been covered outside of Wikipedia by multiple sources including New York Times, the Today Show, and Progressive Orthodontist (a leading publication in the orthodontic field) as well as a number of local news stations. I just added another local news station source to further substantiate the article. My guess is it's being reported as not notable because you may have thought this is the same as other invisible aligners. It's a totally different company with a different model, as the sources show. Pandasaysno (talk) 21:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC)PandaSaysNo[reply]

Answered at the page. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph-No that was not my intention to remove the maintenance template for Dr. Panda Games. Thanks for calling it to my attention. As you had guessed I am new at this so thx for pointing it out. LTasc (talk) 22:35, 19 June 2015 (UTC)LTasc[reply]

@LTasc: Great. Now go discuss your affiliation to the company at WP:COIN#‎Dr. Panda Games- the evidence suggests you are affiliated, as you removed my cleaning up of the article, and the articles just been maintained by single-purpose accounts. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:38, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note

Hi Joseph - thanks for all the work you do, especially dealing with the torrent of new articles that get created. You have positioned yourself right at the mouth of the torrent of conflicted editing that spews into WP and are doing a great job helping defend the integrity of WP. But it is getting to you - are getting too harsh, too fast, and dehumanizing the people you are dealing with. Which dehumanizes you. So... whatever you have to do, to keep from getting bitter, please do it. That is more important than anything. Thanks again for all your work here - you are doing a ton of good work. Jytdog (talk) 23:48, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PS - for some reason, the "New Section" tab at the top of your Talk page is gone. Wierd. Jytdog (talk) 23:49, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How am I being too harsh? They outed themselves by posting at the helpdesk, WP:Help Desk#Wiki disappeared from Google Search results, and then complained when other users (not me) tagged the articles as COI and advertising. Looking at the histories, a lot of the bad content was from them, for instance Britannia Creek was created by them, and is basically just a copy of Britannia Beach#Britannia Creek pollution. And it wasn't me who outed them as a paid editor, I simply moved the discussion to WP:COIN, the most appropriate venue for the discussion. The fact is that multiple editors have been disapproving of their work, yet for some reason they've decided to entirely blame me. Please explain exactly where I was harsh to them, given the fact that 2 other users clearly agree that they are an undisclosed paid editor whose company specialises in river articles? Joseph2302 (talk) 00:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the New Section tab is probably to do with a Javascript I tried to create, it'll hopefully fix itself soon, as I deleted the Javascript. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(the horrors of javascript. i hope your headers do self-heal) i didn't write here to fight with you. I hope you can hear what I wrote. If you cannot or don't agree, you can ignore it. But please know that I watch what you do, and I really value your work at COIN. I don't want to see you burn out. Jytdog (talk) 00:07, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I get it, you think I'm doing too much, and in your opinion it's making my contributions less good. The fact is I don't see it- is there anywhere you specifically think I've been too harsh? Joseph2302 (talk) 00:13, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you are doing too much - every body has different capacities and i cannot judge yours (if only we had a "fed up with bullshit gauge", right?) . What i've seen is you getting harsher, quicker, lately, which is the closest thing we have to one of those. you actually struck the most recent comment at COIN where you were maybe too aggressive - so you saw it. thanks for doing that. i wish you the best, mister. Jytdog (talk) 00:45, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 2015

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please remember that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Having a list of "My Pages", like on User:Joseph2302, is not acceptable under WP:OWN- you don't own the pages, they're pages you created. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Joesph, I'm worried you might be going slightly insane. You deserve a break, go take a walk until you aren't templating yourself :P Winner 42 Talk to me! 01:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to bed in a minute, I think going for a walk would be a bit weird (it's 2am here). But seriously, it was a valid concern- I've been editing and telling people that they don't own articles, while my userpage implicitly claimed ownership to 15 articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:11, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Notice on Popxo

Stop canvassing my talkpage, take it to the AfD

RE: Olamuyia Eleyele Abdulazeez

Dear Joseph,

 How is your weekend? I am suprised to see the article about a Nigerian Footballer deleted today. I received and read your earlier messages regarding providing references (at least one reference) to the article which has been provided. I removed the Biographies of Living Persons PROD after having provide the required reference (not from Linkedin). 

Please kindly see to the restoration of the article as it is needed. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olamuyiwa Eleyele Abdulazeez (talkcontribs) 18:07, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

--Olamuyiwa Eleyele Abdulazeez (talk) 18:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You for the info

I am new here and made a few mistakes thank for rectifying them. I would make future updates according to the guidelines you provided. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Previously I was intimidated by the vast majority of options avaliable therefore I choose whatever was the closest to truth. Now I would be much more carefull.

Thank You