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July 2009

This article, and Public school (government funded), was split from Public school; all prior discussions remain on Talk:Public school. --Una Smith (talk) 14:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Title

The article could use a different title, the current one doesn't accurately describe the article. Perhaps "Public school (privately funded)" or "Public school (independently funded)" would work. Eóin (talk) 05:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article should be retitled as suggested. There is also a need for a "public school (UK)" article to hold the nomenclature discussion currently in the "Public schools" section of the Independent school (UK) article. Kanguole 08:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No there should not see Talk:Independent school (UK)/Archive 1#Requested move -- PBS (talk) 11:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article still needs to be merged/moved etc. Independent school move has no bearing on this. You'd be hard pressed to find a single Briton in the UK who interprets the term 'public school' as anything but a state school. --80.189.194.234 (talk) 20:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly you live in a UK in an alternative universe. Google "public school uk" and every single hit (as far down the list as I could be bothered to look) relates to independent schools. GrindtXX (talk) 22:48, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think "Public School" referring to private schools is purely an English thing rather than an entire UK thing. I live in Scotland, and we just call private schools "private schools", and public (state) schools "public schools". HaniiPuppy (talk) 10:16, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Missing pieces

The article doesn't seem to mention clearly that English public schools are for the privileged, the rich and the "well-born"; the role they play in the traditionally class-stratified English society; the old-boy networking benefits of attending these schools, and so forth. These aspects of public schools are of primary importance, and they should be at least mentioned more prominently in the article.74.196.205.92 (talk) 03:46, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

I have been bold and made this page into a disambiguation page. The UK information was a WP:content fork of Independent school (UK) the rest of the information is now in stubs pages for the other the countries.

That this was a content fork is clear from the history of this page the contents of which were at some point moved to Independent school (UK) see Talk:Independent school (UK)/Archive 1#Requested move -- PBS (talk) 11:49, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnote

I removed the hatnote, citing Wikipedia:Hatnote#Disambiguating article names that are not ambiguous (WP:NAMB) but my revision was reverted by another editor. Nobody types "public school (UK)" into the search box and expects to see the article public school. The hatnote should be removed because there is no need to disambiguate the article name, as it is not ambiguous. --Joshua Issac (talk) 23:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Slang

I'm tempted to remove this entire section. It seems to include an extremely small selection of words. Most are unsourced, some are obsolete, some are not specific to public schools but widely used, some are only in very limited use and suspect. It would of course be possible to include hundreds of words but this is an arbitrary and fairly poor list. --Lo2u ^{(T • C)} 19:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, no objections to removal from me.Rangoon11 (talk) 19:49, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's gone. I've just noticed there was a notice at the foot by another user making much the same point. I don't think it's a good idea to encourage lists of slang; they tend to encourage lots of rubbish.--Lo2u ^{(T • C)} 22:58, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The adjective "Public" is (perhaps) more historic than semantic for UK "Public Schools"

The fact that this page has been split from Public_school_(government_funded) appears to indicate there's a semantic issue here. Since "Public schools" in the UK are not (directly) government funded, it's presumably an historic misnomer for them to be described in this way (i.e. "Public"). My opinion is that people unfamiliar with the history of education in the UK will find such terminology significantly misleading unless a clear explanation is provided (sorry I haven't the time right now but I'll check back!). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.9.73 (talk) 23:45, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated the banner to link to State school. I think it now does the job. PeterEastern (talk) 09:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And I've added some clarification that the term is used of English private schools but in Scotland has traditionally referred to (local) government funded schools. . . dave souza, talk 22:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Winchester

The article on Winchester College says it is boarding only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.149.124.220 (talk) 17:40, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]