Talk:Atlantic slave trade

What does her statement mean?

the process of enslavement did not end with arrival on the American shores; the different paths taken by the individuals and groups who were victims of the Atlantic slave trade were influenced by different factors—including the disembarking region, the kind of work performed, gender, age, religion, and language What does this mean in the context of this article, where does it fit in? What does she mean by "The process of enslavement didnt end with arrival" it is pretty obvious that the entire TST was to enslave Africans so obviously *duh* it did not end upon arrival. The citation is poor. Its fluffy at best, almost poetry not history. Help me understand why this entire statement is needed in this article. B/c You can have 100 PhD and be on PBS every other week, your statements still have to make sense, be true and help the article.--Inayity (talk) 16:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

She means the psychological impact on the enslaved person depends on a lot of factors, and continues after the final sale has concluded. She shifts the emphasis from the perspective of the slave traders & owners to that of the slaves, and it shifts the perspective from the economics and demography to interior psychology. That is the direction recent historiography has gone, so it is a useful insight. Rjensen (talk) 19:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry if she said that, it is not revealed in the above text which actually makes no sense. I study slavery @ a Uni and have no idea what she is on about. So If I do not understand it and understand the topic and have read countless books on the subject then it is a problem. If this is a "new direction" then maybe it is not needed here, . Cuz it sounds like liberal mumbo jumbo and not clear and even if that was true (what you said) then just use someone notable like Dr. Joy DeGruy. --Inayity (talk) 21:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I did not add her statement of first place. I am defending the editor who did so. Wikipedia rules encourage editors to include sourced new material from scholars. If you want to add new material from innovative scholars to understand, please do so. Rjensen (talk) 00:12, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

But I hope I have clarified why I deleted it. And 100% why I removed it from the Lead. b/c of your objections I moved it to the body. I think it should be removed, and if she has something profound and noteworthy to say, that should be included as opposed to that inaccurate and confusing sentiment about paths? If we want to talk like that then I know 100 scholars who can say something more profound like Joy Leary. --Inayity (talk) 08:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Rastafarians

I cannot see that Rastafarians] merit this mention in the article. I am sure that there are plenty of organisations doing serious work who really do a lot about combating slavery - not singing about it. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 00:34, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

The source that was used, cited in footnote 137, makes a very good case for the importance of the music. It has to do with remembrance of slavery. Rjensen (talk) 00:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I disagree. It can be the BBC, but the BBC is wide - they even produce the Teletubbies and you will find BBC pages where Teletubbies characters say this or that about something - perhas even about slavery. That is not to say that because it is BBC it is therefore a reliable source. Have a good look at that page and tell me how admissible it is as an academic/ scientific study on Reggae and slavery. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 13:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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Owen 'Alik Shahadah

A discussion thread about the reliability and notability of this author and his pages is taking place at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Owen 'Alik Shahadah, please comment there so we can get a final consensus. Rupert Loup (talk) 11:57, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Contracts or records of what was traded?

Can anyone post records of what exchange took place for slaves to african rulers so that the article is balanced in terms of factual information on how slavery was initiated? Also any names of the african rulers in this article