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Hi, I'm actually moving right now so the physical bot is in a box haha. It should be back up in a few days. Sorry I haven't been too active on Wikipedia as I'm sorting things out. Intelligentsium 14:41, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I totally believe the bot in a box story. Un huh. I was just about to suggest that once you get back over here, it might be a good idea to appoint a technology-savvy (not me, that's for sure) editor willing to be back up in case this stops running again. On the other hand ... I just realized nobody else seems to know how to re-start Shubinator's various bots. So maybe that's not a workable idea. Anyhow, I miss seeing it's detailed checks on nominations. — Maile (talk) 23:48, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
? It runs on an old desktop so it doesn't have to go down when I'm travelling with my laptop. Actually during the review process I applied for an account at Labs so this could run on an external server. Could do it if you can find a "willing volunteer". Intelligentsium 10:28, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Should it be an admin? It would need to be somebody who is reliably around DYK a lot. Reliability is a key factor, I think. That could be any number of people. — Maile (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it needs to be an admin (and in fact the code is open-source). However the bot should require relatively little manual interaction once running, except to add new features if there is consensus for them. Intelligentsium 18:08, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Two bot issues
Part of the markup for an autoreview includes <noinclude><includeonly>...</includeonly></noinclude>, which never renders at all
Hi, thanks for the heads-up. I've fixed these issues. Please let me know if you see any more! Intelligentsium 23:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Problem with the closing "/noinclude" tag when the DYK template closes
Intelligentsium, we're just starting to see a problem with the new "noinclude" bot code when a review closes as either "approved" or "rejected".
What has happened heretofore is that, as part of the promotion, the DYKsubpage template, which has been the page's framework, is substituted. Part of the substitution involves clearing out comments and internal templates, and inserting "noinclude" and "/noinclude" tags at the beginning and end of the page respectively.
The problem seems to be that instead of pairing the internal "noinclude" and "/noinclude" that you've introduced as part of the bot's review, it takes your "/noinclude" as the end of the "noinclude" at the top of the page, and displays the rest of the page starting with DYKReviewBot's sig, even though we don't want it to. Is there anything we can do about this, so closed nomination pages won't display everything starting with the end of the bot's review?
I'll let you look at this and determine the best way to solve this. It may involve changes to DYKsubpage (perhaps stripping out any existing "noinclude" and "/noinclude" before inserting the new beginning and ending ones?). Let me know once you've made the fix, and also whether similar surgery will need to be done to Vic Lambden and any other recently closed nominations. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Intelligentsium, I noticed at WT:DYK that you're already looking into this. The partially visible templates are beginning to proliferate on the T:TDYK page. Can you let me know whether it's okay for me to start hand-editing them to clean them up? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:52, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the detailed description, it was really helpful! This was due to a brain fart on my part for not considering what would happen after the DYK templates are substituted once a decision is taken. It's always OK to hand edit them to clean them up as the bot doesn't touch them after but as this may be a lot of work, it may make more sense simply to remove or comment out affected nominations.
I have applied a fix, moving to a collapsible box rather than a noincluded bot review, per one of the other suggestions in the original discussion. However, it should be noted that while this keeps the nominations page more tidy than showing the reviews by default, unlike the noinclude solution, this does not address the issue of load time as everything in the hidden box is still part of the page HTML and thus still has to be rendered by the user's browser. Intelligentsium 04:09, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Intelligentsium, apparently this problem is still occurring. Gatoclass mentioned at Broken code on WP:DYKN that he's still encountering this. — Maile (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Another bot problem
When the QPQ review specified is of an article whose title contains slashes, DYKReviewBot will only include the text after the last slash as its link to the review. Pppery (talk) 19:48, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the report. Can you point me to where this issue has occurred? Intelligentsium 19:59, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK:Problem. This seems to be happening more now. Maybe it's just one nomination, but I don't know which one to correct. — Maile (talk) 12:03, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The interfluvial terrain has very flat topography, with altitudes ranging from {{convert|30|to|50|m}}.
The northern region from the [[Amazon River]] to kilometre 260 is covered in recent sediments between 7,000 and 27,000 years old.
Minor variations in elevation of {{convert|1|to|3|m}} cause shallow seasonal lakes to form.{{sfn|BR-319 – INPA}}
In the north and central sections the vegetation is dense lowland rainforest.
To the south, near the [[Humaitá]] and Porto Velho municipalities, the forest is open lowland rainforest.{{sfn|BR-319 – INPA}}
The interfluvial terrain has very flat topography, with altitudes ranging from 30 to 50 metres (98 to 164 ft).
The northern region from the Amazon River to kilometre 260 is covered in recent sediments between 7,000 and 27,000 years old.
Minor variations in elevation of 1 to 3 metres (3 ft 3 in to 9 ft 10 in) cause shallow seasonal lakes to form.[1]
In the north and central sections the vegetation is dense lowland rainforest.
To the south, near the Humaitá and Porto Velho municipalities, the forest is open lowland rainforest.[1]
The bot interprets some of these lines as paragraphs with no reference:
✗ Paragraphs [12] (The ... old.),[27] (In ... railway.),[28] (A ... carbon.),[31] (A ... flawed.),[49] (In ... R$7,510,500.),[51] (On ... issue.),[56] (In ... license.),[58] (She ... problems.),[60] (Cyclists ... exploited.),[65] (The ... Parintintín.),[72] (In ... (CEUC).),[74] (A ... area.),[75] (However, ... paper.),[77] (The ... east.) in this article lack a citation.
A single line break has the same effect as a space when the article is displayed, and should be treated the same way by the bot. Once this is fixed, perhaps you could rerun the bot against the DYK nomination. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 15:04, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads-up. I wasn't aware of the reason for single-line breaks but I'll make the appropriate modifications to the bot so it only registers double-line breaks as new paragraphs. Intelligentsium 16:19, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that. The bot really is useful in looking after all the standard checks. Thanks again, Aymatth2 (talk) 18:38, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK bot request
Just a quick question, I noted you put the DYK bot on manual operation only. I understand that given it clogged up the syntax. But could I ask if the bot could be run just on Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Rinder please? Just so I know that I have defiantly done a 5x expansion. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:33, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]