Talk:Flag of Syria

Edit request on 31 March 2013

Please remove information which implies the flag of insurgents being a flag of Syria. The rebel's flag is a military flag not of any country and not a sovereign state flag. This provision of information discredits wiki in my eyes. 58.179.129.242 (talk) 09:23, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces has received significant international diplomatic recognition (including by the recent Arab League summit). AnonMoos (talk) 14:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry , But i would like to tell you the UN doesn't give an "International Diplomatic recognition" , I would like to tell more that Jordan King was not happy because Moaz and hito sat on the seat , I Would like to tell you that many araibian countries opposite about that , So the flag is still the official Syria flag, not the Mandate one , But , because i like it fair , i'll tell you my suggestion that rentus suggest it :

section 1 : Arab Union Flag

section 2: Independence Flag(But I see it as Mandate one, But for your strange thoughts i'll not make a point on it)GhiathArodaki (talk) 12:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

It's the "United Arab Republic" in English, not the "Arab Union" (and some remember it as an era of Egyptian subjugation of Syria, as I mentioned above). In any case, the degree of international recognition is tabulated at National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces#International recognition, not on this article... AnonMoos (talk) 16:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

What does that mean to you that it is an era of egyptian subjugation of syria ? , This is a very far thing a way from what we are talking about , so don't change the tittle, I gave you my suggestions as a fair suggestions , rather naming it arab union or united arab republic , anyway you like it , that is fine and good , you don't like it , that shows that wikipedia have a hand on what is happening in syria , rather than rewriting history....etcGhiathArodaki (talk) 11:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

It means that from 1958-1961, Nasser was by far the most powerful leader in the United Arab Republic, and some Syrians thought that Syria was getting the worst of the bargain. That has a lot to do with why Syria withdrew from the United Arab Republic (and why not everybody has positive memories or associations with the two-star flag)... AnonMoos (talk) 01:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

although i'm not with Nasser and i hate him , but he was the leader of the araibians, the two star flag's memories are better than the red stars , because the red stars was a mandate flag , but the green stars shows the united relation between the arabs , i'm gonna ask you now this question , where are you from ? , if not from syria , then , what does it mean to you ? , and who told you everybody doesn't have a positive memories with this flag ? , this flag was our flag in october six days war , this flag saw better events than the mandate one, it doesn't mean to you which flag is the syrian flag , but if you are syrian that is something else ,as western countries always poke themself in somethings that are not there buisness .GhiathArodaki (talk) 11:22, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Not that it makes much difference in what we're talking about, but the Syrian flag in 1973 was the one with the golden hawk, not two stars... AnonMoos (talk) 14:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

As long as the Assad government, i.e. the Syrian Arab Republic, is the official representative of that country in the General Assembly of the United Nations it is clear that the Flag of Syria is the flag of that state. Coolavokig (talk) 11:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Look at National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces#International_recognition to see that the opposition forces have attained a significant degree of diplomatic recognition -- including Syria's seat in the Arab League. In any case, the Pol Pot regime or Coalition Government of Democratic Kampuchea retained Cambodia's seat in the United Nations during the late 1970s and most of the 1980s, though almost no-one thought it was the de facto or de jure government of Cambodia.... AnonMoos (talk) 13:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

'By March 2013, at least twenty states had recognized the SNC as ‘the (sole) legitimate representative of the Syrian people’:'

I must have missed news of that election.

So the vast majority of the world's states, didn't concur.

'Arab League to forge NATO-like military alliance of Sunni powers ' ~ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/29/arab-league-to-forge-nato-like-military-alliance-o/?page=all Beingsshepherd (talk) 05:20, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

This article must be one Wikipedia's greatest embarrassments. I used to think Wikipedia was at least usable for objective information, but it cannot even tell me what the official flag of Syria is ...

Bashar al Assad heads the only government in Syria. It collects taxes and runs essential services, except in areas invaded by jihadists (many of whom are foreign). In the last presidential elections he got over 80% support, and people travelled for miles and queued round the block to vote in places like Beirut (Lebanon). Even the least favourable recent European poll showed that the Syrian government had more support than any of the alternatives. A NATO report declared that Bashar al Assad was supported by at least 70% of his people.

Most people in Syria haven't heard of this National Council (or Coalition, or whatever the flavour of the month is) which has clearly been set up in Turkey by NATO to facilitate externally propelled regime change. It has NOT been recognised by the international community, not by China or Russia or most other countries. It represents NATO and its allies, period. There are opposition parties within Syria: this is not one of them.

Syrian opposition in exile seems to be in total disarray, and the status of the various groups is quite unclear: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-15798218

I would argue against the ISIS flag being a legitimate flag for Syria but it certainly has more validity than that of this "Council" Bougatsa42 (talk) 20:16, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Jihadist flag?

Flag of AQI/ISIS/ISIL/IS

Should we show this too for the "Islamic State", or do we discount it because the proclaimed state doesn't include "Syria" in its title?

And what about the Al-Nusra Front flag, or does that count even less because this group has not taken the grand step of declaring statehood?--Pharos (talk) 21:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

The Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi led group doesn't claim to be a government of Syria, but something completely different (a pan-Islamic caliphate), which if it came to fruition would pretty much obliterate Syria as a sovereign state in its current borders. Also, neither the "Islamic state" nor Al-Nusra Front have acheived significant recognition from any internationally recognized nation-states... AnonMoos (talk) 17:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Let's face it, this article is a joke. No-one has heard of this organisation that is supposed to be of equal legitimacy to the Syrian government, which recently held elections. It does NOT acquire legitimacy based on the wishful thinking of Western powers. And I bet its flag is the least known of those associated with Syria (I'm only here because I couldn't remember what it was)

I'm going to copy and keep this article now as an example of the ongoing awfulness of Wikipedia. 203.79.101.147 (talk) 20:00, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

There are actually quite a few rebel flags now from different factions, maybe there should be a section on them all.--Pharos (talk) 14:21, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

The Lone Star Flag

Recently I saw a demonstration where both the green-white-black flag was flown and a red-white-black with a lone star was flown.

Any information on that? 95.34.50.97 (talk) 23:59, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

A red-white-black horizontal tricolor with a single green star was the flag of north Yemen from 1962-1990 (see Flag of Yemen); not sure why it would show up in a Syrian context... AnonMoos (talk) 01:51, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Split

Let's simply split Flag of the Syrian opposition into a separate article - this is already 6 years and neither the opposition nor the Ba'athist Syrian Republic are not going anywhere. We should be realistic and stop pretending like both Koreas are the same country with same flag or that Republic of Cyprus and Turkish Republic of Cyprus can unite - all have distinct flags.GreyShark (dibra) 17:44, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Korea has been hostile but stable since 1953, while Cyprus has been hostile but stable since 1974. Syria is still very volatile and unpredictable... AnonMoos (talk) 10:27, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

This is getting ridiculous

Based on this worthless page, Google is now showing the FSA banner when you search "Syrian flag". Make like a banana, and split. 70.48.113.232 (talk) 04:46, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

What you call the "FSA banner" was in fact the flag of Syria from at least 1946-1958 and 1961-1963, so it's not lying as such (though the text snippet Google displays from the article doesn't match the image). It's a little strange, but on my browser, the Assad/green-star flag is displayed in the little summary box (detached from the search results) at the right of the page, while the old/rebel/red-star flag is displayed under the first result at left, so anybody who was paying a little bit of attention would not be misinformed. Certainly anybody who clicked on the Wikipedia article itself would not be misinformed... AnonMoos (talk) 10:35, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

I've read this entire page, and you've rehashed that point ad nauseum. Whatever you say (repeatedly), that rag is not the flag of the Syrian Arab Republic. Enough!

P.S. "Banner" is not a pejorative in vexillological terms. I merely wanted to avoid using the word "flag" twice in one sentence.70.48.113.232 (talk) 15:24, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

It was the flag of the الجمهورية السورية as you can read for yourself at image File:Coat of arms of Syria-1957.svg. Some consider it the last flag untainted by Nasser's rule, Ba`thism, and the Assad dynasty, and respect it for that reason, while others dislike it for similar reasons. However, mere personal opinions should not affect the Wikipedia article, nor should quirks of Google search displays... AnonMoos (talk) 14:49, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

The page is nonsense and should be deleted, so that someone can start again. There is only one internationally recognised government of Syria. The alternatives, whatever they are called this week, are not even based in Syria. As for the FSA flag, it is associated first and foremost with Western-backed marauding terrorists, who certainly do not represent the Syrian people. Bougatsa42 (talk) 05:40, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

We've had this discussion above; see National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces#International_recognition etc. Your use of the word "terrorists" is unfortunately laughable, since the Assad dynasty has notoriously loved, coddled, and protected terrorists when they could use them against their enemies... AnonMoos (talk) 11:47, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

So who exactly is this "government's" envoy to the United Nations, to Astana, to Geneva? Bougatsa42 (talk) 08:26, 10 July 2017 (UTC)