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Re: Is this a joke? (on RfA)

Minor confusion
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Responding here because the RfA has been closed and don't want to edit it. But no: it's not a joke. That's actually my sincerely held belief re: admins on enwiki these days. :) FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY [u+1F602] 04:13, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Yo TC, it all goes back to this and this. — fortunavelut luna 10:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@😂: Sorry if I offended you by mistaking your opinion for a joke. I personally disagree but you still have a valid opinion. Tornado chaser (talk) 12:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No offense taken. Variety (of opinions) is the spice of life. Have a great weekend :) FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY [u+1F602] 15:23, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@😂: you too:) Tornado chaser (talk) 15:34, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake re: Frazier Glenn Miller

Helping out a new user
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Your understanding of the edit that you removed is factually incorrect.

Labeling this person as a domestic terrorist is in line with the FBI definition of terrorist ("These acts appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping.)" Frazier Glenn Miller Jr. committed acts of mass violence against Jewish community members solely based on religion, which is itself a form of civilian population coercion. The definition is clear and the change is based on defined specificities of terrorists. I am happy to share this conversation with the wider community and let them decide as well. In fact, Wikipedia itself lists his associated organizations on the US Domestic Terrorism list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_United_States, and his specific attack on the list of domestic terrorists attacks.

My response to that edit was likely incorrect, it is more of a WP:OR issue that a WP:NPOV issue, however, you still can't say someone was a terrorist without citing a reliable source that calls them a terrorist. Deciding for yourself that an action was terrorism is [[[WP:OR]], you have a strong argument in favor of calling him a terrorist, but you still must have a source to call them a terrorist in an article. Tornado chaser (talk) 01:36, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If this was in a list of terrorist attacks there should be a source calling it terrorism, feel free to put back the part about terrorism with a source. Tornado chaser (talk) 01:40, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Can I reference the Wikipedia page in which Wikipedia itself calls his act an act of terrorism as my source? Also, what does the Southern Poverty Law Center meet source requirements?
No, wikipedia cannot be a reference for itself, if it is listed as a terrorist attack elsewhere on wikipedia there should be a source cited there, which you could use. Tornado chaser (talk) 01:45, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As for the SPLC I am not sure, I think in might but this is not an area in which I am particularly knowledgeable, see WP:RS for the official sourcing policy. Tornado chaser (talk) 01:48, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Updated with source used for Wikipedia domestic terrorism incidents page, which site the event as Domestic Terrorism.
Good edit! Tornado chaser (talk) 01:55, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's time to call a spade a spade, right?
Wtmitchell has removed it again, as it doesn't appear "constructive" whatever that means. Is not calling someone who committed an act of terrorism, a domestic terrorist "constructive?" I see that many of the American mass murderers of color are listed as such. His act of violence was documented as domestic terrorism.
I reverted him, maybe he thought that since you put it back after i removed it that it was vandalism? I am really not sure.Tornado chaser (talk) 02:09, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help! I am clearly new to this.
"constructive" means an edit that is beneficial to the encyclopedia i.e not vandalism, tests, incompetence ect. Tornado chaser (talk) 02:12, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Come on dude

Vandal asking for permission to vandalize
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Dude aleks sucks just let me vandalize it also is a rip off so stop deleting my stuff and how did you know about the edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friesmaniac99 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Friesmaniac99: No, I will remove vandalism whenever I see it, please stop vandalizing wikipedia, this will get you blocked from editing if you continue. Tornado chaser (talk) 17:23, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New section

Why are you accusing me of vandalising a page? The horse is standing at tallyho stud how is that vandalising? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.139.61 (talk) 12:15, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I clicked on the wrong warning, I meant to say stop adding unsourced info, you need to cite a reliable source for any info you add, ask me if you don't know how to do this. Tornado chaser (talk) 13:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New section 2

Issue resolved
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You keep removing my edits to the Necrophagist page for not sourcing. Saying they use classical influenced compositions is the same as saying they have technical compositions. They're albums feature phrases from Paganini and Beethoven it says it on the Album cover. So it is a matter of fact and shouldn't need sourced. Plus in the article it already says the guitar player idolized Yngwie Malmsteen, a classical influenced Guitar player. I think you are getting just a little high and mighty. The information is not false and is incredibly hard to source as no body really writes about technical death metal from 20 years ago. Please calm down and allow the information to be accurate and more abundant. preceding unsigned comment by 107.77.169.8.

per WP:V everything in wikipedia must be sourced, maybe you could add "used classical influenced compositions[citation needed]" without the "known for", until someone finds a source. Tornado chaser (talk) 19:00, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

phone call from cbc reporter

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I got a call thismorning from a CBC reporter named (Redacted). Now as an investigator i expect to get calls from the media, that's fair. However, as soon as she mentioned Wikipedia and Tara McDonald, that's why I'm worrying that SummerPHDV2.0 may be her. What is your suggestion in making sure that this does not happen again? and don't go starting an/is about me TC, I'm sorry for being worried about my own privicy. I got a call from (Redacted) from CBC, and I'm freaking out because I don't know how she found out that I made those wikipedia edits. Sorry, but I'm scared as hell right now! thanks.

Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.55 (talk) 18:16, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I started an ANI thread to adress the issues involved here, also, you sing your posts with your real name and mention the name of your (I presume) spouse and that you are an investigator, If you talk about you real life like this people will find out who you are. Tornado chaser (talk) 18:20, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is my first time mentioning my position.
Also there is a CBC reporter with th ename Andrew Nichols just like mine. Not to mention there are likely othe people in Canada and Scotland with that name.
I didn't mention until I had to get into discutions, but I mostly sign "andrew nichols' or "andrew' or "andy".
the grave accent key on my keyboard is stuck, and Hekla is th eone who brought this up. I never gave her last name, I never gave our phone number out even in my years as an investigator.
Litterally today is the first time I mentioned i am an investigator, and it was while hekla was on the phone with (Redacted).
Alls I want to know is that is SummerPHDV2.0 (Redacted)? I dont' care about Summer's real name, just is or is he/she not (Redacted).
thaks.
Andy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.55 (talk) 18:26, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am a bit confused by the whole thing and recommend discussing this with the admins at ANI. Tornado chaser (talk) 18:31, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok just let you know though why I undid your redaction, I don't want Summer's real name, I want to know thuogh that it's not (Redacted) from CBC.
Andy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.55 (talk) 18:35, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You don't want to find out who I am, unless I am who you think I am, then you want to plaster it on dozens of pages? Interesting approach. - SummerPhDv2.0 21:03, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, the first time you mention your name is here, and it differs from your later claims. I'd think if the person from CBC got your name from Wikipedia, they would have started with that name, along with the later addition of your middle name. - SummerPhDv2.0 21:26, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am entitled to mess with my fello scotsmen. Andy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.55 (talk) 22:39, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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