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Flamingods

I see you deleted Flamingods for a variety of reasons. I had accepted the draft last year. If you have time, please confirm that the article had been changed since, rather than I failed to do a proper COPYVIO check in February 2016. I want to be sure I didn't promote bad product. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, assuming it was other editors that ruined the article, I'd like to know who it was so I can properly reprimand them. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:13, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Chris troutman: Well, their "official site" is pretty much an exact copy of what was accepted. It doesn't list a publication date, so it's at least conceivably possible that they copied from Wikipedia rather than the other way around. However, the article at the edit accepting it is still full of, for example "...joining forces on various musical projects and detangling myriad influences from other lands and times...", "...experimental music that captured the imagery and spirituality of far flung cultures...", "... one fateful 8-hour chalet jam at ATP festival later and Flamingods had officially graduated from it’s initial solo bedroom project in Bahrain to a full fledged band...", "The group puts a focus on exploration and experimentation, often taking influence from different cultures around the world by use of an extensive collection of instruments from as far as Nepal, Thailand, Indonesia, Turkey, Japan and Tanzania.", and that's solely from the lead and first paragraph. The rest of the article is all in the same vein. That should have been not only clearly rejected as promotional, but nominated for G11. It was almost a couple years ago, though, so you may not have been as experienced then. But in the future, don't accept articles with promotional or "talking up" language, copyvio or not. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:25, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I screwed up. Thanks for cleaning up my mess. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:30, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please review and give your advice

Following our recent discussion on COI article submissions I would like to ask for your help reviewing Joe Ikhinmwin article. Did I place the COI tag at the correct place? Sandbox articles don't have Talk pages so I placed it on top. I also added the information on the article at my user page. Please confirm that I follow the process correctly. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbarmadillo: I've been swamped with a software release, but it looks like you've gotten things worked out. I appreciate your willingness to work with it and do it correctly. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:35, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
:@Seraphimblade: Thank you. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ill advised at Depth charge

Don't make stuff up. Who advised May?

Glrx (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Glrx: "Ill advised" is a common expression meaning poorly thought through. It does not literally mean that someone was advised. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:06, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And to act stupidly means to act without common sense. There was advice about the Japanese weapon systems. Those would be military secrets. There was no advice to spill such secrets. If he contemplated revealing the secrets, then his revelation was deliberate. If he acted stupidly, then he's off the hook. Otherwise, it is treason.
I get the sense of a politically correct driveby without consulting or understanding the material. People act stupidly. The author was not giving his opinion that the act was stupid but rather that Lockwood and company thought the act was stupid. Thing about a submariner who opens up a Pearl Harbor newspaper and reads about the Japanese not knowing to set their depth charges deeper.
Some dictionaries state that a synonym for "ill-advised" is stupid.
Glrx (talk) 22:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Help with article contribution

The article, Arjan Roskam, was recently reverted to an earlier, spam-free version. I understand the reasoning, and it was not my intention to spam. I'm wondering if you'll help me make legitimate contributions to this page, as I believe there are relevant sources for this individual, as well as my own personal photographs. It would be great if I could send you a draft or drafts of proposed contributions before any attempt to edit the page again. I assume you are very busy, any help here would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Barrwk (talk) 15:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Barrwk: It looks like this is pretty much the only subject you've edited on. If you're being paid or compensated to edit about this (including being asked or expected to do so as a duty of employment), then that's okay, but you are required to disclose that fact if it's so. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:34, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 November 2017

Behavioral and content dispute

Hi! Im contacting you because you are listed as an editor willing to provide behavioral and content assistance. I would like you to take a look at the content dispute and the behavior of editor

The full content dispute of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pythagoras is found here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=811537461 since a fellow friend editor Dr. K who seems to be a meatpuppet of the editor I am having the dispute with erased my last entry. If you at the sources I have provided and my analysis on the source his has provided (which leaves out plenty of ancient biographers that state Pythagoras's father was from Tyre) I would like you to bring an objective view into this discussion.

I would also like you to look into this editors behaviors as him and fellow editor friends (Dr K and Khirurg) seem to be meatpuppets as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Meatpuppetry.

I would highly appreciate your time and help on this. ThanksCalinicoFire (talk) 22:23, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]