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Biased article
Article deliberately tones down the criticism instead of having an unbiased. Do the following:
1. Add the one line summary of the criticism in the lead, instead of burying it at the bottom. Do not ignore, dilute or try to kill the reality.
2. No due balance: excessive amount of info on other stuff but criticism is not only toned down but made too short. Why?
3. Add the following to the criticism with this subheading "religious intolerance and inherent supremacist ideology":
The idea of Islamic supremacy is encapsulated in the formula, "Islam is exalted and nothing is exalted above it.[1] As of 2014, about a quarter of the world’s countries and territories (26%) had anti-blasphemy laws or policies,[2] of which 13 nations, all Muslim majority, have death penalty for apostasy.[2]
202.156.182.84 (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- Good idea.109.144.217.235 (talk) 20:47, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ Yohanan Friedmann, 2003, Tolerance and Coercion in Islam: Interfaith Relations in the Muslim Tradition, Cambridge University Press, page 18 and 35, isbn=978-0-521-02699-4.
- ^ a b Which countries still outlaw apostasy and blasphemy?, Pew Research Center, 29 July 2016. Cite error: The named reference "terrorreligion1" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
Islamic Art
Hi, I plan on editing the the Wikipedia Islam page. I plan on adding to the Islam art section specifically. It seems to exclude any references to Islamic poetry, and there are plenty of examples of famous Islamic poetry that would like to add. Myedits0123 (talk) 01:05, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Please see the existing article Islamic poetry and the articles linked from it concerning subgenres of Islamic poetry. This article is specifically about the religion. General Ization Talk 02:00, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Sufi Islam and the Russian colonialism
The article provides the following line: "Sufism has played a significant role in fighting against Tsars of Russia and Soviet colonization". However, no quotation is given. I imagine it might refer to the Caucasus region with a strong influence of Sufism, namely the Chechen resistance during the war in the region led by the Russian Empire but since no link is given the statement remains ambiguous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilya-42 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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It is wrong to say that Christians and Jews refer to God as Allah or recognize Allah as God. Christians and Jews do not recognize Allah to be God at all. He is the God of Islam. That point needs to be corrected and taken out. 41.13.250.245 (talk) 17:26, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Middle Eastern Arabic speaking Christians still refer to God as Allah, and some Jews who originate from Arabic speaking countries (mainly older generations now). Hope it assists. Best.Resnjari (talk) 17:31, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Under the heading "Concept of God" you have the following phrase.
Allāh is the term with no plural or gender used by Muslims and Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews to reference God, while ʾilāh (Arabic: إله) is the term used for a deity or a god in general.
This statement is incorrect.
In Christianity we call God "God" or "I AM" as he was revealed to Moses and also or "Yhwh", pronounced Yahweh. Christians never use the word Allah. We do not recognize Allah as God or even that God's name is Allah. Jews also do not refer to Allah or recognize Allah as God. Your statement is contradicting and very misleading to anyone reading the article. This should be taken out all together.
Anthony Carsten — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.13.250.245 (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Did you know that Jesus didn't speak English? Neither did His disciples. Paul didn't either. In fact, Jews and the Hebrews before them would have said "Adonai" or "Elohim" instead of "Yahweh." Elohim does roughly translate to "God" -- but so does "Allah." In fact, Allah and Elohim both share the same proto-Semitic root *Ilu-, so Moses, David, and Elijah would have been more likely to recognize that name over the English "God."
- To say that no Christian would say "Allah" is to say that no Christian would ever speak Arabic. That's just racist (I'm assuming out of ignorance rather than malice, but still racist) and kinda misses the point of Colossians 3:11. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:54, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Like, seriously, Anthony, your post is unreasonably certain to be so unacceptably ignorant. Even this Christian college which seems to think that Muslims and Christians can't both worship God even though that would mean that Jews and Christians can't both worship God either, since Jews also deny the Trinity and Incarnation agrees that Arabic-speaking Christians use the name "Allah" and don't say that they're wrong for doing so (they just argue that God is not God except where God is God). The Christian Research Institute likewise affirms that Arabic-speaking Christians refer to God as Allah, and did so before Muhammad was even born. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:14, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}}
template. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 18:09, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
But why act as if all Christians are Arabs when in fact very few in percentage terms are?109.144.217.235 (talk) 20:45, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Calligraphic presentation vs "Rare" Image
User:AlHazen has recently replaced the following image:
with this one:
citing rarity of image as the reason. Firstly, I am yet to find any wiki rule that that says that just because an image is rare it shouldn't be in an article. Also such type of art was common in medieval Iran and Ottoman empire so its not quite rare.
Secondly and most importantly the article is lacking diversity with entire sections only containing calligraphic presentations of the subjects. Therefore, images available on a particular subject should get preference instead of being removed. Alina Haidar (talk) 12:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
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