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Sandbox

I am using this space to create my sandbox. MarnetteD | Talk 20:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another. MarnetteD|Talk 21:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
and one more MarnetteD|Talk 22:13, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reminders

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I believe I've dealt with this editor before when he was editing similar articles using a different IP. He made the same "kids who know nothing hassling smart old me" comments. At the time, he claimed to be a University Professor in Media or some such, posting from his office. Of course, his IP info said differently. He was blocked then, and this new instance is blocked. JoeSperrazza (talk) 20:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here are the links:
JoeSperrazza (talk) 20:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all the info and the links JoeSperrazza. I appreciate you taking the time to do this and it will be good to have it in one place. In the AN report Binksternet supplied the link to a previous ANI discussion seen here Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive887#IP troll 66.102.146.179. Stubbornness or trolling either way it is a shame really. Oh, flunking students that disagreed with you is the opposite of what being and educator is about. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:46, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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(talk page stalker) This is User:Nate Speed. Sro23 (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Ah - thanks for the explanation P. The flipping out in the edit summaries is familiar. If my memory dredges up any names I'll let you know. MarnetteD|Talk 22:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent Sro23!! Thanks for posting. MarnetteD|Talk 22:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks NinjaRobotPirate. This is all ringing some bells - I think you may have told me about this before. If so I'm glad you refreshed my memory. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 07:23, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

216.152.191.218

I rolled back a whole bunch of those edits; there may be more. Is this someone we know? Update: holy moly this goes back a long way. Drmies (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drmies. The edits are familiar but I'm not sure of who it might be. Bambifan101 (talk · contribs) always springs to mind but there have been numerous imitators over the years. To your second question I don't have that tool. My computer skills never advanced much beyond WYSIWYG back in the late 80's. Thanks for you message and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:52, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw that Ponyo has blocked this editor Autumnleaves646 (talk · contribs) for socking. Considering that persons edits were also about categories (see this thread Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film#Categories: Films about foo) they might be related. Or maybe not but I thought it worth mentioning. MarnetteD|Talk 23:48, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Writ Keeper, if MarnetteD wants it, can you help with mass rollback? I believe this was your invention, was it not? MarnetteD, it's a real easy thing to use. Ponyo, this IP is likely not one of them, is it? Drmies (talk) 00:13, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: They're editing from different continents. There are a few masters who are category obsessed (remember CensoredScribe?) and the Disney slant does come off as Bambifan but the geolocation doesn't align. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:56, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, that was me. It's pretty easy to install; just go to your common.js page and create it with text reading: mw.loader.load("/w/index.php?title=User:Writ_Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");. When you do that, there should be a new button or tab at the top of a user contributions page that reads "rollback all"; click that and it'll roll back all the edits in that contribs list that can be rolled back (it only rolls back the edits listed on the page, so if there are more than are listed, it'll stop there). Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 12:32, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look at things Ponyo. Thanks to you as well Writ Keeper for providing the expertise on the coding. Finally thanks to you Drmies for organizing all of this. MarnetteD|Talk 17:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And everyone lived happily ever after. Softlavender (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Anytime I get WritKeeper to show up it's a party. If I'd known it would be like this I'd have broughg that lemon meringue pie. Drmies (talk) 22:56, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Lemon meringue pie Yum Yum :-P MarnetteD|Talk 23:07, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

MarnetteD thank you for being here for me. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 18:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are most welcome PBA. MarnetteD|Talk 18:29, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Poppy Harlow

Hi, I would like to re-confirm with you about the Poppy Harlow article. Firstly, this portrayal is REAL. It is also not a minority belief. It is truly IN POPULAR MEDIA, in this case, Pewdiepie. This is not a complaint here, but “otbility” does not come up on any dictionaries. Clear that up for me? I would therefore like to reinstate the section back as this would clear the vandalism and is notable enough. I will also add the related references back. If you accept, I will return the page. Oshawott 12 (talk) 09:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Oshawott 12, No need to SHOUT. Try "notability" instead. That works.
In other words, your addition is not referenced and furthermore, it adds no value even if it could be. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 09:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

oh thanks really had no idea. think that would clear things up for the pewds fans thou right? @Gareth Griffith-Jones I will add the references if I can publish the section again. Oshawott 12 (talk) 09:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

sorry for the capitals, too ;) Oshawott 12 (talk) 09:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oshawott 12 please see my note on the talk page. The mention has to be noted in WP:SECONDARY sources. The mere fact that it exists is not sufficient. MarnetteD|Talk 14:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gareth Griffith-Jones thanks for filling in while I was sawing logs. MarnetteD|Talk 14:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are you expecting a chilly autumn? ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 14:34, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe G but it isn't here yet. Temps have been in the 90s for the last two weeks and leaves haven't even begun to change yet. Supposed to cool off this weekend. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think I can prove it with a video, it is real Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A video is a WP:PRIMARY source Oshawott 12 and will not be sufficient. I'll say it one last time - the fact that she is called that on his website is not sufficient for a mention in the article. MarnetteD|Talk 14:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Would this work? https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/30/17799440/pewdiepie-tseries-youtube-top-creator-subscribers-bollywood-india It mentions Poppy Harlow portrayed by Pewdiepie, as a secondary source. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It only says that he plays a character named PH. It makes no mention of the real person at all so no it won't work. MarnetteD|Talk 14:58, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It says “by discussing current events (as a character called Poppy Harlow)”. It’s on the 8th paragraph of the text, for TL:DRs. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 15:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I read that. How would I have made my response otherwise? Perhaps you did not understand my post so I will say it again "It makes no mention whatsoever of the real Poppy Harlow" nor does she have any connection to his show. MarnetteD|Talk 15:58, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Isn’t “Poppy Harlow” her name? It’s a reference to her. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:04, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PH is a name. There can be more than one person with the name. Your claim that it refers only to her is both WP:OR and WP:SYNTHESIS. MarnetteD|Talk 14:07, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is clearly referring to her, as shown in many of his videos. Please just accept it and let me move on with my edits. You're just not taking it at this point. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 04:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
His videos are a WP:PRIMARY source and cannot be used. Please just accept that Wikipedia has policies and guidelines that I am following. The item does not belong in an encyclopedic article. You can certainly post your thoughts on your blog or Facebook page though. MarnetteD|Talk 04:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting

Didn't expect they would answer this kind of question :) See —AE (talk • contributions) 08:53, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I know what you mean AE. I saw that post just before heading of to dreamland. Once someone gets a bee in their bonnet it can be hard to predict what they will do. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 13:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lounge TV

You are quite correct, there were no bare URLs on Lounge TV when I placed the tag. There was a problem in my mind, and now I have done some work on LoungeTV and I did some testing on Talk:Lounge TV. Please look again and tell me if either of the article references is better, or maybe some combination would be better. --Dthomsen8 (talk) 23:59, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your fine work on bare URLS. I once was very active on that effort, but I have moved on to other things, especially the Channel Islands, including Jersey.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Dthomsen8. I replied on the talk page for the article by adding a further example. I appreciate your compliment very much. My thanks to you for all your work all over the 'pedia through the years. I've always wanted to visit Jersey since I first saw this series Lillie (TV series) back in college. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 00:16, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My wife and I visited Jersey back in early June, a side trip from London, and three days was just enough to make me want to return, perhaps in March 2020. Check out The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, and the film adaptation, but the film was not shot in Guernsey. --Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the recommendation Dthomsen8. Coincidentally I just got a notice about that film from Netflix yesterday so it is on the list. I just finished watching There is Nothing Like a Dame which is a complete joy. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:07, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cake!?

File:Blood_Orange_Chiffon_Cake_with_Mango_Curd (Unsplash).jpg Qwerty number1 (talk) 21:07, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That is kinda elaborate Qwerty number1 and looks tasty. Coincidentally I made a honey-orange cheesecake for tonight's BBQ. Thanks for dropping this pic off :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:34, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:The Big Bang Theory

I wasn't going to get involved in this but, regarding this edit summary, strictly speaking the template should be reverted to the version prior to the disputed edits per WP:STATUSQUO. Since AlexThe WHOVIAN's edits are the disputed changes, that should be this revision. To be fair, the IP/new editor is actually correct. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:37, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification AL MarnetteD|Talk 18:30, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, that discussion went completely off-track very quickly so anyone was bound to be confused. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:35, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That is a fact AL. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:40, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hoax articles again?

Hi, I noted that The Truth About Jane And Sam II was recreated again and seemingly a hoax again. Can you take a look at that and the pages created by Idcactus3535 SFC VGCP as well? thanks --Xaiver0510 (talk) 02:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Xaiver0510. Drmies has already blocked the editor who created that article. While I can't look at the deleted article as far as I can tell (with some quick Google searches) all the other articles they created are hoaxes. You could slap some WP:G3 speedy delete tags on them and see what happens. If the speedies are rejected we will just have to send them to AFD. Now the block is for vandalism but if you can find whether the new editor is a sock of the one who created that article before then they can also be speedied as WP:G5. I am in the middle of another project at the moment but may have more time later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for your vigilance. MarnetteD|Talk 02:31, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out I was typing too slowly. All the artices they created have been deleted. Cheers to everyone for thei quick actions. MarnetteD|Talk 02:32, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out I was slow also! thanks for the guidance so I know what to do next time also! --Xaiver0510 (talk) 02:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome Xaiver0510. MarnetteD|Talk 02:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mass delete is a wonderful thing. Drmies (talk) 02:38, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely :-) MarnetteD|Talk 02:41, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply](←)

If Idcactus3535 SFC VGCP is busy creating hoax articles, an administrator should block them.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 03:01, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Their User page welcomes them, at least right now.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 03:04, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Dthomsen8. If you check their contribution history you will see that they are blocked. This is also noted on their talk page here User talk:Idcactus3535 SFC VGCP#October 2018. Both of these happened earlier tonight (my time) so all is copacetic. Cheers and I hope you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 03:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why I am labeling the “Americans of African descent” categories.

Why would Johnny Depp who is only of 3/2048ths “African” descent, so distant it’s virtually incalculable, in the same category of actual African-Americans who would be labeled as such? Therefore, wouldn’t “Americans of African descent” be for people with only a generally distant African ancestry or one known African ancestor from probably over 200 years ago while African-Americans are in the “African-American...” categories? That’s my logic behind it. The top of that page does say “Note: 'African Americans' are citizens of the United States of Black African ethnicity or ethnic descent — they are listed at Category:African-American people.” Trillfendi (talk) 01:13, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your statement is WP:OR and WP:SYNTHESIS Trillfendi. Why 200 years? Why not 100 or 300? How in the world is anyone going to determine when a persons ancestors were or were not in Africa? BTW your statement would mean that everyone would belong in the cat since mankind's ancestry is to that continent. As it stands there are no such limits to the category in question. The only thing I can suggest is that you ask for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories. MarnetteD|Talk 01:57, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

200 was a random number obviously, but my hypothesis still stands. Anywho, I’ll take it over there as in the past 3 years two others have proposed the same theory on that page.Trillfendi (talk) 02:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A Piraat for you!

Cheers! DonQuixote (talk) 20:28, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yum Yum. Thanks DQ. MarnetteD|Talk 20:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm a big fan of Criterion and frequently note their releases in film article Release sections, and borrow from their essays for Themes and Production sections. But please keep in mind they are a business. If essays are linked in the reference sections there is no reason they need to be redundantly listed in External links. That comes across as overkill, or advertising and WP:UNDUE. The fact that the opinions are "scholarly" doesn't detract from that. If the essays aren't referenced, they could be put in EL sections for future editors to use for sources. If they already are, I think it's best you give it a rest. Ribbet32 (talk) 04:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ribbet32. Not every reader is going to click on every reference so they will be unaware of a given essay if it is only in that section. They will at least have a chance to know that it exists if it is in the ELs. Our film articles are replete with ELs that are also in the ref section (Rotten Tomatoes springs to mind) and there is no guideline at WP:MOSFILM restricting links to only one of those two sections. It also does not violate UNDUE as there are 955 CC releases at the moment and we have 100s of 1000s of film articles. I am not advertising their website anymore than the ELs advertise IMDb or TCM both of which link to sales items. Please note that I have taken part in previous discussions about the CC website over the years. Although there has not been one in quite some time the last consensus was that linking to the essays is fine while linking to the sales page is not. You will note that I am replacing any links to the sales page with one to an essay. Please also note that their website went through a major overhaul within the last couple years and many of our current links are dead so I am also replacing those with working ones. If you feel a new consensus is needed (since WP:CCC) I feel sure other editors would add their input at the Filmproject. Best regards and thanks for all of your editing here at the 'pedia. MarnetteD|Talk 05:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I should add that I understand where you are coming from Ribbet32. Many years ago I removed ELs that were also in the ref section and was told by more than one editor that there was no reason to not have them in both. MarnetteD|Talk 05:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you are saving up for their Bergman box set that is coming out next month R. It looks magnificent. When they came out with their set of Kurosawa films in honor of his 100th I picked it up and have enjoyed viewing them more than once. It's only drawback is that there are no extras with the films. The Bergman set is going to include several juicy looking documentaries etc. You can save some money if you wait for the Barnes and Noble 50% off sale or one of the CC's flash 50% off sales. I feel sure you know about these but am mentioning them just in case. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 05:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Science reference desk: silicone temperature post you keep removing

I'm sorry MarnetteD but I don't think it's fair that you are continually removing my post from the Reference Desk instead of trying to engage with me and just assuming I'm a troll. I'm going to seek help with dispute resolution to get my post put back. Just because you had the last edit, doesn't make you right. 185.230.100.66 (talk) 10:32, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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