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East Jerusalem

The proclaimed capital of the SoP is "Jerusalem" - not East Jerusalem. Several edits have been made in the last months claiming the latter. This is incorrect and I will fix it shortly. ImTheIP (talk) 13:38, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ImTheIP: West Jerusalem is not claimed by the Palestinian Authority. Please self-revert your edit. 13zmz13 (talk) 18:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@13zmz13: Can you find something more authoritative than the Palestine Basic Law from 2002? If so, I'd gladly revert. ImTheIP (talk) 21:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"partially recognised"

Why is it listed as 'partially' recognised? Its not really correct or necessary. And Why do you need to mention its status you don't do that with any country and besides, every one knows its a recognised state under occupation thats not fully independence and recognised by everyone

Kawhilaugh42 (talk) 01:14, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See International recognition of the State of Palestine. It is very correct to call it partially recognized because 30% of UN countries do not recognize it, and it includes vast majority of the more influential countries. It is necessary to mention because recognition is an important goal of the PLO.

Israel's control (a.k.a "occupation") of the territories now claimed by SoP began before it was declared, so the state was never occupied. Everyone knows that this is a partially recognized state claiming lands that are considered to be occupied by Israel, just as the lead of the article says. “WarKosign ” 08:44, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"De jure sovereign state"

The lede's first section claims that Palestine is a "de jure sovereign state", but the article it links to states that The PLO and Palestinian Authority claim that the State of Palestine is a sovereign state, a claim which has been recognised by most states, though the territory it claims is under the de facto and "de jure" control of Israel. Even more confusing is the fact that Kosovo is listed as a "disputed territory" while it's recognized by roughly the same number of states as Palestine is. 13zmz13 (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's because Kosovo is not the same thing as Palestine. They're two totally different things. --Jayron 32 18:49, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sovereign should be removed. De jure for that matter too. States are states when they are de jure states (meaning recognized by other states). Sovereignty however requires actually exercising control over the territory. Palestine is a state that is held entirely under Israeli occupation, meaning it exercises no sovereignty over its territory. nableezy - 19:27, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think "disputed and partially self-governing territory with limited recognition as a state" would fit better seeing as the Gaza Strip is described as self-governing (effective control by Hamas) in that article's lede. The West Bank also has differing levels of autonomy. 13zmz13 (talk) 02:35, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]