Talk:List of awards and nominations received by BTS

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Awards

Like on other pages, fan voted awards should not be included, I see that the page has already been cleared of this fan plague on January 19, 2017 by the user Lgggioia but it has been instantly re-added without reliable sources, I cleared it again and now it has been added again without any valid arguments beside "Please go to and pay attention to your idols rather than messing with others, awards are awards, whether they are fan voted or not.". So, if you cannot provide a valid reason for inclusion and if "btsdiary" is the only source which you can find to confirm the award, then the award is obviously not notable enough. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:32, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

As far as I can see, there are no awards that are supported by the source 'btsdiary' and yes, I do believe that this is not a reliable source however allkpop and soompi are quite reliable. Fan voted awards, however, I believe should be included as there are award shows purely based on the votes. As far as I can see, all the awards are cited by a source, whereas some other idol pages are not even cited by a source, so if one is to interfere with awards that are cited with a source, I believe that is unjust to other pages that are not (talk) 22:35, 17 February 2017

No they are not reliable, look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources, as I said in my edit summary basically 50% of sources are either allkpop, soompi, btsdiary, koreaboo, youtube, twitter etc. – these are all not reliable. If the soompi awards are so notable, then find a reliable, independent source which mention the winners - thats right, you wont find it, because the list doesnt exist outside of soompi.com website or fanblogs, same goes for other non-notable awards, its not only that they are fan voted, they also have ZERO publicity from reliable sources. You mentioned teen choice awards - those are an exception, they are worldwide notable, many top-tier published sources writes about the awards, and they held a ceremony for it, you cannot compare this to soompi awards, so-loved awards, hello kpop awards and other random crap. Snowflake91 (talk) 23:01, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

In regards to the Soompi awards does Fuse count as a reliable source? Because fuse has been covering the awards for a few years now. Beyond that the 2018 results from the Soompi Awards were reported on by Billboard here Also the awards are given based on Soompi's charts as well as fan voting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.71.248.179 (talk) 06:07, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

References

If Design Awards

So BTS' branding won an If Design Award [1][2], which is apparently a fairly important award in the world of design, so I figured that I should add it here. The problem is that, despite it being about BTS' branding, the award seems to be going to the designers who make the logo as well as BigHit, not BTS themselves. Is there a point in adding this? Should this issue be explained in a note at the bottom of the page? Nyantatata ^-^ ^{(Say hi!)} 23:47, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Why I undid the edits that removed the unreliable sources

I undid two edits today that prev removed some Akp/Soompi sources from the page. Since no one else seemed like they were gonna do it (since those citations have been there a while) I'm going to replace them myself (working on it right now). I added them back in to help me track the dates/articles. Ik citations can be removed just like that and you have to search from scratch, but it's easier for me to work like this since it helps me save time. Just wanted to explain a bit more why I did what I did before anyone takes issue. - Carlobunnie (talk) 21:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm also working on it , kinda slacking 'cos of my job. Good luck ! I'm really thankful, I thought I'm the only one who cares. Shaiyee (talk) 05:57, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Move some Awards

Hi, I don't understand how to change wikipedia stuff so May I asking can you moving iF Design Award and A' Design Award to Other Award? You know because the award is not a main award for musician and it will make the list more organisir. Thank you. Reskyyandi (talk) 13:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

BTS's Award

1. I saw you also put in the Diamond Play Button Award from Youtube. But what I knew, before Diamond Play Button, Youtube also gives Silver and Gold Play Button. Are BTS does not get it?

2. BTS also win the Global Popularity Award (For Global Popularity), not only Genie Mobile Popularity Award (For Korean Popularity), but unfortunately, the award was not given during the show because the trophy was forced to be used/given to BTS choreagrapher for the Best Choreographer award. That's what I found from several BTS fanbase accounts. This is also evidenced by their photographs, where one of their award is written Global Popularity Award.

3. #BTSARMY was nominated as Best Fandom in Brazilian Nick but you didn't put it in. The award show itself will be held today.

4. Why did you not enter the award from Soompi Award in the list? I know it may or may not be included in the fan-voted award, but what I knew, Soompi also includes some assessment criteria for the winner, not 100% based on voting. And also, Soompi is one of the biggest websites about Kpop on the internet. Which kpopers who doesn't know about Soompi? I think you should put it in on the Other Award Category like another website award as VLive Award and Hanteo Award. Reskyyandi (talk) 01:08, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

I agree that soompi awards should be included now, the awards gets a major coverage this year (Billboard, Forbes, ABS CBN News, Fuse TV) etc., so the awards easily passes WP:GNG. But not sure if we should also include the winners from the previous years, because pre-2018 the awards had pretty much no media coverage. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:52, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

There are no articles stating bts got silver and gold play buttons. If you have an article that's a respectable source we can include it otherwise we can't. I'm not sure about soompi they're not even viewed as a reliable source so I'll let others determine that. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Questionable Awards Show

I was adding descriptions for the various award shows to the page and noticed that I was unable to find any information on The Halls of Stars Awards. As a result I question whether the awards come from a legitimate awards show or some random online website. If it is not from a legitimate award show, can someone help me move it to the other awards section? Starlight dreams (talk) 23:26, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Notable awards??

Can I know why ECA award for burn the stage was edited from the wiki page? It has a legit link and the management company even tweeted about this in their official twitter account. It was the most grossed film in 2018 in music film category.. May I know why??? I actually don't get it.... Antonia parker (talk) 10:08, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

All awards needs to be covered in the secondary reliable sources to pass WP:GNG, primary sources are not enough, for example those internal radio station awards that were added today – simply googling "Planeta Awards bts" gives zero results outside of the official website of the radio station, so non-notable. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:37, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Adjust Guinness World Records

Adjust Guinness World Records because Blackpink has broken BTS's records: Most viewed music videos online in 24 hours by a K-pop group and Most viewed YouTube music video in 24 hours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alessiol01 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

They havent, it was already broken in Dec 2018 by Ariana Grande, do not list a current holder but only the entry that surpassed it. Snowflake91 (talk) 15:54, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

WRONG CALCULATION OF AWARDS AND NOT INCLUDING MELON POPULARITY AWARD

HELLO EVERYONE! I JUST NOTICED IT TODAY BUT IN THE BOX AT THE STARTING OF THIS WIKIPEDIA PAGE "LIST OF AWARDS AND NOMINATION RECEIVED BY BTS", CALCULATION IS WRONG. ALSO MELON POPULARITY AWARD MENTIONED IN THE LATER PART OF THIS WIKIPEDIA PAGE IS MISSING IN CALCULATION OF TOTAL AWARDS. WHEREAS IN OTHER ARTIST PAGE THEY HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN THE AWARDS AND NOMINATION SUMMARY TOO!! I REQUEST THE AUTHOR OF THIS PAGE TO LOOK INTO THE MATTER, AS WHEN I TRIED MAKING CHANGES, IT ALWAYS GET UNDO BY THE AUTHOR. A BIG THANKS TO THE AUTHOR OF THIS PAGE TO GIVE US SO MUCH INFO ABOUT THIS SAMSamudrika (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Melon Popularity is not an actual award and is therefore not counted in awards/nominations tally, I dont know why is this even mentioned in the article, it is already at Boy with Luv#Weekly awards like music shows, the only proper melon awards are Melon Music Awards. Snowflake91 (talk) 17:22, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

How do u get to know about all the awards being awarded??

Hi author of this wikipedia page, as i am new here i wanted to know about how u get to know so fast and accurately about all the awards being received by BTS?? As they are popular worldwide hence they get awards from many functions, so how do u keep up with the latest news?? And sorry about that MAMA award wrong change i made, i read it from soompi and thought that u may have missed it!! Samudrika (talk) 16:07, 5 June 2019 (UTC)Samudrika

Policy on awards

User is citing that all awards from reliable sources can be mentioned as Wikipedia policy. There is no such policy that I can find. Wikipedia doesn't generally mention things that aren't already notable. In fact, the policy for films strictly mention this as a standard. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#Accolades

Awards included in lists should have a Wikipedia article to demonstrate notability. Because of the proliferation of film festivals and "award mills", festival awards should be added with discretion, with inclusion subject to consensus. Awards bestowed by web-only entities are not included.

The last time this was discussed in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Korea/Popular_culture/Archive_3#Awards - there was some consensus that fan site awards like Soompi are generally not mentioned. Unless these awards have some established criteria and aren't just fan popularity awards, I doubt they would rise to the notability to be listed.

-Evaders99 (talk) 07:18, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Film Accolades are not the same as musical awards. Having an article is not a measurement of the notability, this is why the red links exist – the awards can be very well notable, but no one has created its Wikipedia article yet, so that doesn't mean the awards are automatically not notable. There is no such a guide that would specifically say which awards can be included and which not, so there is a simple rule that the awards needs to pass WP:GNG to be included. Since 2017, Soompi Awards gets a lot of coverage in reliable sources, so they are notable, fan voted or not – for example, many awards in "other awards" section are way less notable than Soompi and are still included, for example MBC Music Show Champion Awards, Arirang TV Simply K-Pop Awards, Arirang TV Pops in Seoul Awards, Hanteo Awards, V Live Awards etc., where pretty much a reliable secondary sources doesnt exist at all, they are all linked to some youtube/twitter/official website sources. Furthermore, since 2017, Soompi Awards are not fully fan voted as far as I know. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

MBC’s “Music Core” awards are not included???

MBC’s “Music Core”; awards are bein held for soo long and have been awarding many artists for years.....but still there no mention of the awards won by BTS on this page..... Any specific reason for this?? Because this award is quite reliable, various sites like Soompi,allkpop, youtube, instagram etc have also being reporting about this!! Ref:https://www.soompi.com/article/1330640wpp/watch-bts-takes-17th-win-for-boy-with-luv-on-mbcs-music-core-performances-by-sandeul-wjsn-lee-hi-and-more

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.225.83.22 (talk) 09:17, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Literally all those sites you mentioned are highly unreliable, and see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture#Are music show wins notable? Snowflake91 (talk) 09:37, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

I have read the whole discussion, where at the end it clearly say, to include the artist win atleast in the PROSE SECTION, where u too agreed with it!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:2EEC:D5D6:D8F7:1800:5EAA:E75B (talk) 20:35, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Plz add "BTS officially being invited by Grammy to join recording academy" in summary

Can this one line be added in the summary plz, "BTS officially being invited by Grammy to join recording academy" Ipersonally think this is a very big achievement as they are the first k-pop group to be given such a big honor. Though this is not a award but still is a very big achievement to be nominated , and hence at least one line in its respect should be written. REF- https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/awards/8514907/bts-among-potential-new-members-invited-join-recording-academy-grammys

2401:4900:2EEC:D5D6:D8F7:1800:5EAA:E75B (talk) 20:01, 8 June 2019 (UTC)Bang

No, we dont list every shit to this article, the lead is already too long with 5 paragraphs, this is a list of awards and nominations article, post this to BTS main article Snowflake91 (talk) 20:15, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

WOW THANK YOU BEING SO RUDE. I JUST MADE A REQUEST FOR ITS ADDITION. ITS OKAY IF U DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE IT. THERE WAS A REASON WHY I ASKED U. I THOUGHT THAT THIS IS YOUR ARTICLE AND HENCE BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGE I SHOULD ASK, I COULD HAVE DONE IT MYSELF TOO, BUT I DIDN'T DO THAT!! I AM SORRY TO SAY BUT I WAS JUST BEING CIVIL AN MAKING A SUGGESTION SO YOU TOO PLZ TRY TO REPLY PROPERLY!

There is no "mine" or "yours" articles there, everyone can edit everything. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:56, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Picture

Can a new picture of BTS winning an award be uploaded?? Its almost mid 2019, and the old picture is of 2017, so i guess along with the awards the picture should also be updated right?? CAN SOMEONE UPLOAD A NEW PIC OF BTS IN 2019 ....