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I saw your comment on the John Mew page saying you removed some weasel words. Not sure what you removed, but sounds like a good move. The page itself still seems to be incredible biased. Factual sentences with reliable primary and secondary references have been removed. It is fine for a wikipedia page to present the good and the bad, but what was noticeable was that only the good was deleted. When I reinstated those sentences I was accused of having a vested interest. I have no connection to the subject of the page. I think the editor responsible may have some bias on this matter because they were so quick to delete well sourced information and replace it with pejorative sentences. I don't want to get into an editing war with them, but I would like to find a way of making the page more balanced. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Acirsa 86.141.3.30 (talk) 21:49, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Acirsa: I agree that there are problems and it's on my watchlist. I'm a bit tied up for the rest of the week but I'll have a go at it when I can Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:21, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AXS GUARD

Hi Jim. You recently deleted Draft:AXS_GUARD. I update the User:Gebruiker tvb in rigard to COI - I am an employee of the company. Is there any way to recover the contents of the draft? And if so, is the content reasonably acceptable or not at all? In my humble opinion it was short, written neutral, referenced and not especially promoting/advertising, at least not more than other Next-generation_firewall products, like Microsoft_Forefront_Threat_Management_Gateway or Barracuda_Networks? —Preceding undated comment added 10:29, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

@Gebruiker tvb: renowned for... and bolding every mention of your products isn't particularly neutral, and some at least of your sources aren't independent third-party publications. A list of products and some history also doesn't show that it meets the notability requirements I linked on your talk page. Also see What about article x?. Also note that many articles would have been accepted before the notability guidelines were made stricter. I'll probably be able to restore as an edited version, assuming that there is nothing copied from your website, but it's a bank holiday here, so not sure if it will be today Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:04, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jimfbleak: Hi Jim, thank you for your reply, well appreciated. I see your point, that phrase was even about another product/company. Maybe focused on... would have been better. I would happily remove any excessive bolding, it wasn't intended as to extra promote the product (or any other products), but rather inexperience as an editor. I did not include any logo, only included a link to the product website in the extra info section. No text from the product/company website is copied/reused on the draft page. The links used in the references are articles from news papers, and press releases from (now) another (independent) company. I could try to find more independent references. For example the product appeared a few times in Data News magazine over the years, e.g. [1]. Some partners refer to us on their website [2] or [3], as to prove the product exists for a long time already and is well-established in the market. The main reason for creating this page is to serve as a reference from Comparison_of_firewalls, and List_of_router_and_firewall_distributions, as to inform any reader that other Linux based Internet Security appliances exist, with proprietary license (unlike pfSense), yet with Lifetime vendor support. Any forthcoming day that suits you to make the restore is fine, thank you. 12:51, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
@Gebruiker tvb:,you don't need to ping me on my own talk page. The problem you have is that there is no indication of how your product meets Wikipedia:Notability (software), and your references are press releases and other company generated material. I've restored as a cleaned up version, I suggest that you take a copy as it may well be chopped again Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jim, apologies for my ignorance again. Thank you for the prompt restore action. I made some changes to the draft, as to remove the history section completely, and keeping only independent references - 2 - like SC Magazine, who reviewed the product (in English). Any suggestions to further improve the draft are very welcome. 14:48, 26 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gebruiker tvb (talkcontribs)

Request for reconsidering the speedy deletion decision and request to recommend to publish the article

Dear Jimbleak,

I recently tried to publish an article for Intouch Solutions Inc. I did not specify that I work for the company, although I am not getting paid for creating this page. I am doing it on my free time and thought it would be fun, as the company is pretty large and does not have a wikipedia page. I was using many third party sources and trying to keep it as factual as possible. I believe that with further editing it could become a resourceful page. Please reconsider or provide some action steps I may take to get the article back in my sandbox if possible? thanks! Jbrown3423 (talk) 13:06, 26 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbrown3423 (talkcontribs) 11:28, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jbrown3423 , please place your messages at the bottom of a talk page and remember to sign them. I've fixed your COI declaration. It's a holiday here today, but I'll take a look when I get time Don't be tempted to recreate in the interim. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:52, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Jbrown3423, despite what you say, much of the article is unsourced or sourced to unacceptable sources such as company press releases and interviews with your management. You need independent third-party sources, not the company talking about itself. The text is highly promotional and includes an awards section that is both unsourced and non-notable. Promo includes led the groundbreaking creation of the industry's first virtual and augmented reality app... I fell in love with the company.. This vision... gained significant notoriety in the industry... Following his entrepreneurial spirit and so on. You would do better to start from scratch since if I restore I'll chop a lot of the content. Let me know if you wish me to proceed, but note that I'm pretty busy this week in RL anyway.

Dear Jimfbleak, thank you for getting back to me so quickly on vacation. I appreciate your feedback. thanks for taking the time to point out the shortcomings in my writeup for Intouch. I will go back to the drawing board and try again. you've given me some great points to work from. Bare with me, this is my first time attempting to publish an article. Cheers. Jbrown3423 (talk) 11:42, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COI

Hello Jimfbleak, Thanks for the awesome job you are putting in here. My response to this notice posted on 05:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC) (i believe it was for cmapit article) is that i am doing it on neutral grounds that is based on my intention to put as many legitimate and internationally-recognized nigerian or nigeria-based companies on the map. i have not received any compensation for the work nor did i contact the owners of the company before writing the article. i do understand that my writing style was not neutral enough and needs to be brushed up as i was convinced the article was proper to be deleted according to wikipedia policies. i will revisit the article once again much later when i have more neutral mentions of them online. Thanks again for your work, Jim. 2dmaxo (talk) 14:28, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my page

I created a page on wikipedia about a local medical initiative in Jordan and you deleted it, the draft was titled Electronic Health Solutions - Jordan Alialawneh (talk) 15:21, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alialawneh, not sure what you are asking me, since I've already posted guidance on your talk page. Your draft had no independent third-party sources, since the text was a mixture of unsourced or sourced only to your own website. It was littered with spamlinks, when there shouldn't be any external links in the main text and only a link to your main website in the "External links" section. It's all about what you sell, with no independently verifiable facts to show how you meet our notability criteria, and it's promotional in tone with mission statements and visions instead of facts and unsourced promo like widely recognized as a premier, tightly-integrated Computerized Physician Order Entry (CPOE) syste... It is considered to be the most important module and the hub of all other packages. It also seems to be a significant copyright violation of their website, which is marked EHS | All Rights Reserved © 2019, so can't be used here. Please read the guidance I've already posted on your talk page, which you must follow, we are not a free advertising service. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:38, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Jimfbleak Thank you for the feedback, all understandable points. this is the first time I use wikipedia and I'm beginning to familiarize myself with it. The page was about an initiative in Jordan for public health data management, it is not a private company, the language is promotional which I can change, and apologies for the copy rights infringement. I will remove all external links in the text and refer to them in their respective sections, and I will check for a third party source to verify the info. Thank you for your time

Quick Deletion of Page

Hi Jim! You deleted my page titled "Ernest Annie Nwoye ". I am new to Wikipedia and am trying to figure out how to follow all of the guidelines -- would you please advise on what steps I would need to take in order to get the page approved? I appreciate the help! he is a high profile individual and meets the guidelines for Wikipedia:notability. Austine647 18:33, 26 August 2019 (UTC)Austine647[reply]

Austine647, I've been away for a few days and it may take a while to catch up, but I'll reply as soon s I can Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:41, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Replied now Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:07, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail!

Hello, Jimfbleak. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Vanamonde (Talk) 04:02, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, a typo on my way here led me to User talk:Jimfbleak/. Funny how some trivial errors hang around...this has apparently existed since 2006. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:03, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vanamonde93, thanks. All sent now, let me know if any problems. I've also sent the ref format I use, but obviously you don't have to use that Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting the User page

Deleting my user page as a... “Unambiguous advertising or promotion: self-written vanity page”? Seriously man, “a vanity userpage” :DDD ? Not to mention – promotion of what? I don't remember there was anything there besides my contact information (if anyone ever needs it), and some basic userboxes, so you may be overreacting. Can you give a hint what exactly have caused you to delete it? Honeyman (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:50, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Honeyman, another user tagged your user page as promotional, and I agreed. As per Wikipedia:User pages, your user page is primarily to let us know about your activities on Wikipedia. Although some basic bio is allowed, it's not intended to be a link farm to your off-Wikipedia pages, which is what all your content was. If you think it was excessive to describe it as a "vanity page", I'll withdraw that, but it was clearly a breach of WP:NOTWEBHOST anyway and perhaps should have been deleted as U5 instead of G11. Either way, it couldn't remain Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:37, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, you mentioned userboxes, but your page never had any at any time, nor any other content apart from a collection of external links Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't even remember if I had userboxes there or haven't :) I definitely considered to add some in the past but not sure if I actually did. There should be probably something like fb/telegram/linkedin there (mostly for the purposes of *finding me* or *validating me*), and nothing, like, "material to promote". Is there anything worthy/salvageable there, or I can just create a new one, put those fb/tg/li links and add some userboxes, so anyone who needs to relate "Wikipedian me" with "other projects me" could do it? Honeyman (talk) 05:52, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Honeyman, I checked the history, there were never any user boxes. I've seen far worse than this, but the problem was that there was too much in the way of external links and nothing about your activities on Wikipedia or user boxes. Probably simpler to start from scratch. If you look at my user page, although there is some non-Wikipedia bio there, it's mostly Wikipedia-related so no one is going to complain Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:58, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Should be somewhat better now. Cheers! Honeyman (talk) 07:20, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Honeyman, yes, it looks more convincing, cheers Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC) Honeyman, just pinging again, made an error first time Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:47, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Igor Krivokapic

You nominated my creation of the article about "Igor Krivokapic" for deletion and already deleted it. You say the text is copied, and you point to my personal website. Actually I am really pissed off because I first created the text on Wikipedia and THEN LATER copied the text to my website. I did this order because I already did it vice versa in the past with other articles and some other wonderful admins here then deleted my articles because it was first on my website and 10 minutes later on Wikipedia. I thought I got the point and so made it correctly. So the Wiki text was first and I copied the text for my website LATER IN TIME. So you please restore my article immediately. Thanks. Tobias Broeker — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20th c violin concerto (talkcontribs) 12:47, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

20th c violin concerto, it's not quite as straightforward as you claim. You are infringing our terms and conditions anyway in that you are copying material from Wikipedia without attribution, and also claiming it as your own copyright rather than the CC BY-SA 3.0 Licence that you must use if you copy Wikipedia material. Although you have written the text, you don't own it and once you've released it to Wikipedia it is governed by our T&Cs. I'll assume good faith for now and soon restore for the time being, but you will continue to have this problem unless you comply with our reuse terms and make it clear on your website that the text is from Wikipedia and anyone can copy and reuse it Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:30, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article deleted per A7 and G11

Hi, I saw that you deleted Brios per CSD A7 and G11. I was not sure if they were applicable; that is why I instead placed a PROD tag (and sent to AfD when it was contested). There was one statement (they also participated in a considerable number of concerts all over Albania) that looked like a credible claim of significance (per WP:SIGNIF), even though it was unverifiable; as I understand it, A7 is inapplicable in cases like this. As far as G11, some content was definitely spammy, though this is a close call because it was not written entirely as promotion or advertising. I'm not saying that it shouldn't have been deleted, but would you mind clarifying how these CSDs are applicable? Thanks, ComplexRational (talk) 14:15, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ComplexRational, the CSD nominator tagged it for A7 and G11; I'd probably just have G11ed if I'd found it first, but any indication of notability is so weak I didn't feel it necessary to remove the A7. As for G11, it's spattered with spamlinks to their social media and YouTube pages and there are unsourced promo claims like without a doubt the most professionally produced song... It's a song where technique, melody, sound and concept are crowned to the maximum. It's pretty likely that this is written by the band or management, and I've asked the main editor if he/she has a COI, and also posted detailed guidance. I really don't think that there is much of value here, and if the editor still thinks they are notable after reviewing my post, they can always try again Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:53, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
COI does seem likely, and I agree there was no indication of notability. Thanks for the explanation. ComplexRational (talk) 15:01, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please I had an article that was deleted, Please I want to write another if you can help me check for correctin

Austine647 please add your messages to the end of a talk page, give it a heading and remember to sign with four tildes, ~~~~. I don't know what you are asking me, I've already explained in detail on your talk page why your sandbox text for Ernest Annie Nwoye was deleted, what you had to do to get an article accepted, and even gave you a link to a proper biography page. I wonder if you have read any of it since you also posted your draft on Talk:Archie vs. Predator Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:12, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my sandbox!

Hi. You deleted my sandbox very recently and I wanted the most recent edit so that I can transport to another page. I am sorry for misusing, but I need the most recent edit to move to another web page. Ugla'a (talk) 19:42, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ugla'a OK, looking again, I can see that this page might have some purpose, so restored. I suggest that you either move it soon or make it clear in your sandbox what it's intended for Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Jimfbleak Someone deleted it like 10 seconds later — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugla'a (talkcontribs) 17:42, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ugla'a, you'll need to talk to the deleting admin RHaworth Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:58, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article restoration

Hi Jim,

I wish to rewrite my article about the company: Lensa - you've deleted it today. Firstly, I wanted to react to your second sentence in my deletion notice: I did not just write what I liked, I tried to be informative and unfortunately was not clear on all the guidelines there are out there.

If you have some time, could you please let me know from the draft I've created what I'd need to remove/rewrite to make sure it doesn't sound like an advertisement? I'd be happy to make the changes straight away, but at this point I don't even know how to proceed with further editing.

I appreciate your help and effort on this.

Thanks, Mesi W (talk) 13:17, 5 September 2019 (UTC)Mesi[reply]

Replied on user talk page, dubious notability, NPOV text Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for responding!

I'm a bit lost on HOW I can try again with my submission? It says on the draft page that " If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below." So do I submit my rewritten copy to you or how does it work exactly? I don't want to make more mistakes.

Thanks again Mesi W (talk) 14:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mesi W, the point of that comment is that you consult the deleting admin before recreating to get guidance, rather than just ploughing ahead with the same problems and risking a block as WP:Not here. You've done that, so you can try again at Draft:Lensa, and let me know if you want me to take a look. You could alternatively write at User:Mesi W/sandbox, but it might be moved to draft space from there. The main thing is to take your time and make sure you get it right, each time an article gets deleted, by any admin, the more at risk your account is. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:33, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COI

Hi Jim, I'm a little confused. You seem to have tagged me for COI but I clearly disclosed this in my submission. Unless you were referencing my edit on the Stacey Solomon page in which case I have no COI in that case, just a fan. Chrisjfoster (talk) 13:48, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chrisjfoster I see now what happened. You make a declaration, but not in the expected place. As I said in my post, you need to put the declaration on your main user page at Chrisjfoster. On the talk page of the article itself, you should put {{Connected contributor|User1= Chrisjfoster|U1-EH=yes |U1-declared=yes |U1-otherlinks=COI declared on main user page}} Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, I see. Thank you for explaining. I'll be sure to read the documentation more carefully if I make any further submissions. Chrisjfoster (talk) 14:25, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yvan Forclaz

Hi Jim, I want to start over writing about Yvan Forclaz. I am writing you because I got the following message from Wikipedia: "A page with this title has previously been moved or deleted. If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below." What is your opinion about? Can I start over by using the article wizard and placing in Special:Mypage/Yvan Forclaz so I can get feedback from other authors? Toldo83 (talk) 09:52, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Toldo83[reply]

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the reply. What is notable is the joystick bicycle that he invented. Can I add content to an existing page such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle? Or is it better to create a page about the joystick bicycle? Toldo83 (talk) 13:14, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Toldo83[reply]