Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poster child

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The result was Withdrawn. There were two "delete"s, but they were added before the sources prompting the withdrawal were provided. Sandstein 20:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Poster child

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The lede is almost entirely unsourced WP:OR, and the one source in the lede is just an example of usage. The rest of the article is just a list of example usages. I spent a fair amount of time searching for good sources, but can't find any. There's certainly lots of stuff out there that uses the phrase "poster child" in passing, but I can't find anything that discusses it as a topic, which is what we need for a WP:BCA. Suggest this be turned into a soft redirect to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/poster_child -- RoySmith (talk) 02:42, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn. See my more specific comments down below. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:28, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:28, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:BEFORE. There's lots of periodical articles about the concept. I would not oppose a soft redirect. Bearian (talk) 23:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you can provide a few references, I'd be happy to look at them. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTDICT. I would support a soft redirect to wiktionary as Roy suggests. — Wug·a·po·des 19:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 03:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete This seems best covered in dictionary. WP:NOTDICT. Agree with nominator that we need WP:BCA for this topic here. Lightburst (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Clearly a case of original research. The sources do not discuss the generic concept of poster child but simply give examples from which the author(s) derive their own definition. Glendoremus (talk) 18:36, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I assisted at an editathon recently which was specifically about such posters. I am quite sure that they are the subject of study because we had speakers lecturing about them. For an example of detailed coverage of the specific concept of the poster child, see The Making of Poster Children. Q.E.D. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding that. It's certainly a much better source than what I've seen previously. If you (or Bearian) can come up with one or two more like that, I'd be happy to withdraw my nomination. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's some books about the concept:

This book describes a prototypical poster child on several pages.

This book describes whether certain disabled children are poster children or not. starting on page 262 ff.

This history book desfibes how the concept gained favor starting on page 255.

This book describes the first polio poster children in Chapter 21.

I used +"history" for my search terms. Bearian (talk) 12:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that. The Longmore and Smart books are the best of those, going into some detail about the origin of the term. The Morgan-Owens and Nielsen books seem like just more examples. The article still needs work to improve the sourcing, but based on these, and the source found by QED above, I'm withdrawing my nomination. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep withdrawn nomination WP:SKCRIT Lightburst (talk) 14:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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