User talk:7valentine7
January 2020
Hello, I'm Muboshgu. I noticed that you recently removed content from Talk:Gays for Trump without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Z33 Doug Weller talk 16:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
May 2020
Your recent editing history at Alex Jones shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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I made my point. I wont revert anything else right now. Though I still stand that the edits made are opinion based. You should not allow opinions to guide your editing. Rather it be popular or unpopular opinion even if news sites say so does not make it true. We caution that opinions should not rule on wikipedia. Facts should. 7valentine7 (talk) 01:21, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Do you believe that there are child labor camps on Mars? That Democrats are running pedophile clubs in basements of pizza joints with no basements? That Obama wanted to set off a nuclear bomb in Charleston> And on and on. We go by reliable sources, not our own opinions. O3000 (talk) 01:25, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
I made my point. I wont revert anything else right now. Though I still stand that the edits made that are not mine are opinion based. You should not allow opinions to guide your editing. Rather it be popular or unpopular opinion even if news sites say so does not make it true. We caution that opinions should not rule on wikipedia. Facts should.
Just because it appears those from a certian side of the political spectrum take more notice in rules and procedures to cover for the fact that you rewrite history based on opinions does not mean that what is written is fact.
Instead the writing of articles based on popular opinion and based on only news you consider as factual because it proves the narrative you wish to present does nothing but destroy the use of wikipedia.
Opinions are not fact. While you accuse individuals of conspiracy you prove that opinions which is a big part of what makes up conspiracy is in fact exactly what drives you.
Change facts to opinion and you only become what you accuse. 7valentine7 (talk) 01:32, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Btw do you calls of rape from Kavanaugh, pee pee tapes, russiagate, kids in cages from picture of AOC screaming at a parking lot.. Etc etc to be real news? Websites and groups like CNN have announced these fake news and conspiracy theories for a long time and many are found out to be just that. So if I go to the CNN wikipedia right now or newscasters from these sites will I be able to see them labled as far left wing, fake news, conspiracy theory sites? I prove my point you pick a few artices and statements from a site or a individual and you place labels on them. These are your opinion. If they were not you would place these on CNN, Abc, msnbc, and others right now. I bet you won't. 7valentine7 (talk) 01:42, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Blocked
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)- As Guy Macon pointed out:
Let's review for our newly-arrived Infowars/Newswars/Prison Planet minions, shall we? Alex Jones claims that the US government kidnaps children and makes them slaves at our martian colony, that kids are only pretending to get shot at school and their parents are only pretending to grieve, that Michelle Obama is really a man, that Carrie Fisher of Star Wars fame was killed to boost DVD sales, that the coming New World Order is a demonic high-tech tyranny formed by satanist elites who are using selective breeding to create a supreme race, that tap water is turning frogs gay, that Temple of Baal arches will be erected in multiple cities around the world Real Soon Now, that the Democratic party runs a pedophile ring through pizza shops, that the US government commits acts of terrorism against its own citizens, that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons from hell, that the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami were a government plot, that Obama wanted to detonate a nuclear bomb in Charleston, South Carolina, that FEMA runs concentration camps... Sounds legit to me!
- There's no point in even warning you if you don't understand that InfoWars is the McDonald's of conspiracy theories. Pretty much any response I can imagine you making (just about any appeal but agreeing to a permanent topic ban relating to politics and conspiracy theories) will likely result in talk page access being revoked. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
7valentine7 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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I already agreed that Alex Jones csn be considered a conspiracy therorist. My issue is declaring full websites and describing individuals as far right without providing actual proof. I see you have been on this site for a long time. My point is the website you build is based on more opinions than fact. If what conspiracies you said are fact then I can agree with you. My issue is that although I may be on a different political spectrum as you appear to be I think opinions should be moved to different areas of subject. I do think you provided enough to establish he is a conspiracy therorist its why I backed off. I still think other things are questionable in his page. I did also say I would refrain from further edits of his page and similar pages. I agree to not edit conspiracy pages. Will that satisfy you to be unblocked? I am not here to present opinions. Thank you. 7valentine7 (talk) 01:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about article subjects. Wikipedia does not claim to be free of bias and does not present all points of view as having equal weight. We present the sources so readers can evaluate them and judge them for themselves as to their accuracy or bias. If you see this as posting opinions, there isn't any reason to lift the block- and you also don't tell what topics you will edit about instead of conspiracies. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 09:22, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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