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*'''Strongly Oppose''' There are also articles about the firm in which the name is spelled in all caps: OZY (<span class="plainlinks">[https://www.axios.com/ozy-revenue-profitability-carlos-watson-cdd726df-2e3d-49d7-abad-7ac6036f7013.html '''example''']</span>). I suggest that the NYTimes doing otherwise has more to with their archaic internal manual of style than anything else. Moreover, the company itself spells it in all caps (<span class="plainlinks">[https://www.ozy.com/pg/about-us/ '''verify''']</span>). [[WP:TITLETM]] notwithstanding, are we Wikipedians becoming so arrogant and presumptuous that we are now telling companies how to spell their own name?! What’s next? Tell Kraft Foods they have to change their name to Craft Foods because we editors at Wikipedia deem it so?<code><nowiki><soapbox/></nowiki></code> Thanks!{{smiley}} — <span style="font: bold 125% Garamond;">[[User:SpikeToronto|<span style="color:#DC143C">Spike</span>]][[User talk:SpikeToronto|<span style="color:#000000">Toronto</span>]]</span> 16:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Strongly Oppose''' There are also articles about the firm in which the name is spelled in all caps: OZY (<span class="plainlinks">[https://www.axios.com/ozy-revenue-profitability-carlos-watson-cdd726df-2e3d-49d7-abad-7ac6036f7013.html '''example''']</span>). I suggest that the NYTimes doing otherwise has more to with their archaic internal manual of style than anything else. Moreover, the company itself spells it in all caps (<span class="plainlinks">[https://www.ozy.com/pg/about-us/ '''verify''']</span>). [[WP:TITLETM]] notwithstanding, are we Wikipedians becoming so arrogant and presumptuous that we are now telling companies how to spell their own name?! What’s next? Tell Kraft Foods they have to change their name to Craft Foods because we editors at Wikipedia deem it so?<code><nowiki><soapbox/></nowiki></code> Thanks!{{smiley}} — <span style="font: bold 125% Garamond;">[[User:SpikeToronto|<span style="color:#DC143C">Spike</span>]][[User talk:SpikeToronto|<span style="color:#000000">Toronto</span>]]</span> 16:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Pretty much all media I've seen covering the controversy does it in lower caps. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 18:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Pretty much all media I've seen covering the controversy does it in lower caps. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 18:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' - It is true that the company calls itself OZY<ref>https://www.ozy.com/pg/about-us/</ref> both in titles and in prose. Calling them "Ozy" is a type of deadnaming and shows a lack of respect for self-identification. Many media articles, such as the one cited by [[User:SpikeToronto]] above correctly spell "OZY". Just because a bunch of articles all of the sudden followed the NYT in exposing the con (while saying that they suspected it all along but without having the balls to do so), and followed the NYT's styling of "Ozy," does not mean it is not OZY. [[User:XavierItzm|XavierItzm]] ([[User talk:XavierItzm|talk]]) 14:20, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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Fastest Growing YouTube Talk Show Claim

The wiki article includes a claim attributed to Good Morning America that Ozy is the fastest growing YouTube talk show in history.

However, the NYT article posted on 9/26 states that the “fastest-growing” claim was in fact made by Ozy’s Watson on Good Morning America.

Thus, I propose the attribution of the claim to Good Morning America be removed and the sentence rewritten to clarify the claim was made by Ozy themselves. DietDrPhil (talk) 07:06, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be reasonable to just delete it entirely. That could apply to large tracts of this article which has clearly been authored by the company itself for self-promotion. Given the demonstrated mendacity of the company's principles I think we should feel free to Be Bold. Goatsnstoats (talk) 17:57, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 October 2021

OZY (media company)Ozy (media company) – Per WP:TITLETM, style an all-caps company name in title case White 720 (talk) 01:23, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support the 2nd ref appears to mainly use "Ozy" in prose. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:18, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support not an acronym Oh Zee Why. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:42, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support - Common name. Schierbecker (talk) 15:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – I've usually seen this as "Ozy" in MSM sources — MaxEnt 22:20, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Per this New York Times article, "Ozy was named after 'Ozymandias,' the famous sonnet by Shelley" so it isn't an acronym. Trivialist (talk) 12:52, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Novellasyes (talk) 15:35, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yup ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:48, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongly Oppose There are also articles about the firm in which the name is spelled in all caps: OZY (example). I suggest that the NYTimes doing otherwise has more to with their archaic internal manual of style than anything else. Moreover, the company itself spells it in all caps (verify). WP:TITLETM notwithstanding, are we Wikipedians becoming so arrogant and presumptuous that we are now telling companies how to spell their own name?! What’s next? Tell Kraft Foods they have to change their name to Craft Foods because we editors at Wikipedia deem it so?<soapbox/> Thanks!SpikeToronto 16:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Pretty much all media I've seen covering the controversy does it in lower caps. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - It is true that the company calls itself OZY[1] both in titles and in prose. Calling them "Ozy" is a type of deadnaming and shows a lack of respect for self-identification. Many media articles, such as the one cited by User:SpikeToronto above correctly spell "OZY". Just because a bunch of articles all of the sudden followed the NYT in exposing the con (while saying that they suspected it all along but without having the balls to do so), and followed the NYT's styling of "Ozy," does not mean it is not OZY. XavierItzm (talk) 14:20, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]