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Name is said to be offensive

According to the main ethno group article, the term used in this title is considered offensive by today's Tsuu T'ina. Should it not be changed to reflect that? Or does linguistics exist in a bubble insulated from the values and feelings of the subjects of study/ If no answer in a few days (really there is none that will do) this should be RM'd.Skookum1 (talk) 12:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On your user page, you say, "Wikipedia should seek to reflect reality, not influence it or control it" and also "politically-correct language is inherently and by definition POV in nature". I think that answers your question? — kwami (talk) 13:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your weaseling means nothing to me, Kwami, this does not have to do with "POV", this has to do with "offensive" per "How the group self-identifies should be considered. If their autonym is commonly used in English, it would be the best article title. Any terms regarded as derogatory by members of the ethnic group in question should be avoided.". And reality that should be reflected here is the self-identification and self-respect of the Sarcee people which is a reality in modern Canada, if not in your linguistics department wherever the frack it is. You should really read up on indigenous/cultural sensitivity boyo. Unless you'd aver the "Kike" is OK instead of Jew or "nigger" is ok for Black Americans. Quoting myself back at me without even understanding what I'm saying and misapplying it is typical for you; pullling out all the stops huh? More WP:BAITing perhaps?

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 ==Name is said to be offensive==
 According to the main ethno group article, the term used in this title is considered offensive by today's Tsuu T'ina.  Should it not be changed to reflect that?  Or does linguistics exist in a bubble insulated from the values and feelings of the subjects of study/  If no answer in a few days (really there is none that will do) this should be RM'd.[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 12:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
+:On your user page, you say, "Wikipedia should seek to reflect reality, not influence it or control it" and also "politically-correct language is inherently and ''by definition'' POV in nature".  I think that answers your question? — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 13:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
+::Your weaseling means nothing to me, Kwami, this does not have to do with "POV", this has to do with "offensive" per "[[WP:ETHNICGROUP|How the group self-identifies should be considered. If their autonym is commonly used in English, it would be the best article title. '''''Any terms regarded as derogatory by members of the ethnic group in question should be avoided.''''']]".  And reality that should be reflected here is the self-identification and self-respect of the Sarcee people which is a ''reality'' in modern Canada, if not in your linguistics department wherever the frack it is.  You should really read up on indigenous/cultural sensitivity boyo.  Unless you'd aver the "Kike" is OK instead of [[Jew]] or "nigger" is ok for [[Black Americans]].  Quoting myself back at me without even understanding what I'm saying and misapplying it is typical for you; pullling out all the stops huh?  More [[WP:BAIT]]ing perhaps?