Talk:Climate emergency

Changed to redirect

Just some rationale (in addition to the edit comment): Some media organisations (such as the Guardian) are using the term as a synonym to "Climate change", so I think a redirect there is more appropriate. (Plus this articles content is a halfway house between disambiguation, redirect, and duplication of the "Climate emergency decleration" page - never a good state!) Regards, Sean Heron (talk) 18:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree but note this is another place where Wikipedia's use of "climate change" and "global warming" requires explanation. But rather than repeat that here, please see the abundant discussion of scope and article name of "climate change" and "global warming" at Talk:Climate change. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 19:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Sean Heron that this should be a redirect, and not a separate page. I'm not fussed about whether this should redirect to global warming or less appropriately, but better than current state, climate emergency declaration. Btw, the definition is not supported by the given source: the word slogan is not in BBC article. @Prokaryotes, again the request to edit with more care. Femke Nijsse (talk) 11:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I did not add the word slogan. It was added by a different editor, if you take issue with it, you should ask that editor. Besides, clearly also a slogan, but really we should first establish if we merge articles before we talk details. prokaryotes (talk) 20:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CNN Pence

So CNN's Tapper is asking Pence about climate emergency. But is what people are calling a climate emergency, is it a threat? Do you think it is a threat, man-made climate emergency is a threat? https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/24/politics/mike-pence-climate-crisis/index.html prokaryotes (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Because climate emergency is not always mentioned in relation to a declaration I rather merge climate emergency declaration into this article. In fact the broader term climate emergency is much more common. For more context see this BBC article(What is a climate emergency?). Basically we only have to move the declaration article into this one and make it more clear in the lede. Ping related article authors, 分液漏斗, BorisAndDoris, Graeme Bartlett, Aldaron, Rodw, Aldaron, NewsAndEventsGuy, Paora, Schwede66, Sean Heron, Matthiaspaul, Javiermes, Cosmicseeds, Kaltenmeyer, OliverEastwood, J 1982, Konard, Frietjes, EdmundT prokaryotes (talk) 20:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think "climate emergency" and "climate emergency declaration" are two different things. The second one will very likely see considerable expansion in the future, first because there is more stuff to be translated from the article in the German WP, and second, because many more cities and countries will declare such a state - and I think we should try to keep track of this because this may become historically important.

I'm not sure, however, if "climate emergency" should be an article in its own or just a redirect to global warming, where it is explained (although the concept of "global warmling" as is might be a bit too general to cover "climate emergency", so perhaps there is another place in another article where this could redirect too). At least "climate emergency" is not a neologism, the term has been in use at least since 2009 (not 2019 as the previous article suggested). --Matthiaspaul (talk) 20:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this reply, it is indeed a bit complicated, also when you have the term climate emergency getting more attention in the news - more broadly discussed, and with various people discussing it, and on the other hand people calling explicit for a declaration or governmental bodies declaring one. But just redirecting to global warming, then reading that brief paragraph on it while on point seems too short. I can see how this will create edit discussions down the road there because the article is so extensively. The discussion is also how to address this emergency, responses will be different, so there is a lot to cover. I would also agree to redirect this article to the declaration page, then adjust the article scope there, but however then this article space here appears more accurate. prokaryotes (talk) 20:57, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]