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Why list individual radio stations in North America?

The current version of the article says:

Thru the Bible continues to air on over 400 radio stations including KXEG,KCRO and KLGO in North America

Why mention these 3 particular stations in preference over all the other 397+ stations which also carry the program in North America?

Ac44ck 04:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't imagine a good reason. You may want to be bold and fix it. --B 04:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added KLGO because it has been twice sited by the National Religious Broadcasters association as Radio Station of the Year. This shows the reach that J Vernon McGee has even today to reach such large markets. 13:14 29 August 2007 (LightSeeker777)

Umm ... well ... that's not really a good reason. McGee is on the Bible Broadcasting Network, which reaches far more people than any single radio station. He's on plenty of radio stations in larger markets than Austin. Other than for the purpose of advertising your station, there is no reason to list individual stations. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising and takes a dim view of spam, even internal spam. By the way, FYI, if you use four tildes (~~~~), they will automatically turn into your signature and time/date stamp your post for you. --B 18:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, I added a reference from Thru the Bible's website that it is broadcast via the internet. I'm just a very big fan of this show, I've listened for about 3 years now. My apologies for any unintentional spam. LightSeeker777 18:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. --B 18:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the dipute about neutrality?

Questioning tags were addded by User:Mattisse for unstated reasons:

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Please see the discussion on the talk page.

Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved.

Where is "the discussion on the talk page"? What needs to be resolved before the message can be removed? I have asked on User_talk:Mattisse for clarification be given here. --Ac44ck 01:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing articles

Are you aware that articles are to be referenced by unbiased third-party sources?

If you do not have footnotes, then the reader does not know where the information came from. Even if the sources you give were neutral, giving a balanced view, you do not say where to find specific facts.

"He walked away from the denomination when he moved from Pasadena to Los Angeles, citing inroads of liberalism as the cause of his dissatisfaction" -- where can the reader go to find this out, to verify that it is true? An unbiased, reliable, third-party source should be used to verify this - a reliable newspaper like the New York Times, or books published by reliable publishers, or websites that are neutral and not pushing a point of view.

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view

It is not neutral if the only sources you are citing are primary sources, that is, documents from the organization itself. It would be like having Ford Motor Company writing a neutral article about itself, while General Motors writes a neutral article about itself. It can't happen because no one is neutral. That is why you need more than one reliable unbiased source.

Examples of footnote citations: (There are several methods Wikipedia allows. Tags are used when citations are missing in an article that is fairly well cited already, like the Scientology article.

You can ask me more questions, as I am probably not explaining very well, or go to the Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) for help. Regards, Mattisse 01:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 I have asked on [[User_talk:Mattisse]] for clarification be given here.
 --[[User:Ac44ck|Ac44ck]] 01:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
+== Referencing articles ==
+Are you aware that articles are to be referenced by unbiased third-party sources?
+*[[Wikipedia:Verifiability]]
+*[[Wikipedia:No original research]]
+If you do not have footnotes, then the reader does not know where the information came from. Even if the sources you give were neutral, giving a balanced view, you do not say where to find specific facts.
+*[[Template:Cite book]]
+*[[Template:Cite news]]
+*[[Template:Cite web]]
+"He walked away from the denomination when he moved from Pasadena to Los Angeles, citing inroads of liberalism as the cause of his dissatisfaction" -- where can the reader go to find this out, to verify that it is true? An unbiased, reliable, third-party source should be used to verify this - a reliable newspaper like the New York Times, or books published by reliable publishers, or websites that are neutral and not pushing a point of view.
+*[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]
+It is not neutral if the only sources you are citing are primary sources, that is, documents from the organization itself. It would be like having [[Ford Motor Company]] writing a neutral article about itself, while  [[General Motors]] writes a neutral article about itself. It can't happen because no one is neutral. That is why you need more than one reliable unbiased source.
+Examples of footnote citations: (There are several methods Wikipedia allows. Tags are used when citations are missing in an article that is fairly well cited already, like the Scientology article.
+*[[Embankment dam]]
+*[[Ralph Bass]]
+*[[Scientology]]
+You can ask me more questions, as I am probably not explaining very well,  or go to the [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)]] for help.  Regards,  [[User:Mattisse|<font color="007FFF">'''Mattisse'''</font>]] 01:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)