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Sleeping Beauty live action sequences?

Stupid question. The opening and closing to Sleeping Beauty (with the book) certainly look like live action. Assuming they are, should note 2 be added? Or is it just too minor to add? --NE2 05:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are indeed. I believe D23's YouTube channel might have a video on how the book was restored to its original form; I did see a podcast of it, but don't know if it's on YouTube, though. Yes, it's too minor to add. Personally, Note 2 is pointless and shouldn't even be in use. --McDoobAU93 06:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to Streamline Disney Animated Feature Lists

Link to relevant discussion on Wikipedia: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disney/Animated Film Article Cleanup

After perusing all the "List of" articles under the Disney category, it seems that this list is now redundant since

  • All animated films released by Walt Disney Pictures in the US are already listed under the List of Disney theatrical feature films article, also color-coded as animated films (albeit Studio Ghibli films are not listed, they are already listed here)
  • Disney's big two animation studios, WDAS and Pixar, already have lists of their own films (List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films recently created and growing and List of Pixar films
  • And it seems people are still confused that this article should redirect to the list of WDAS films article, which wasn't and isn't that main point of having a broader Disney animated film list

My suggestion is to either

Plus any information not included in those studio-specific lists that's in this list would be transfered there.

--Rebel shadow 03:22, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

All the Disney articles are a mess, and I can't see an easy solution! I'd be more inclined to leave this article here as an overview, and change the focus of List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films to those that were actually produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios (i.e. post 2006) and include their short films, expanding the information and development there. Oh, and you may want to incorporate List of sources for Disney theatrical animated features somewhere too! --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:32, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, sir; now I'm thinking of using the Template episode list template and having seasons be the different studios and then have this be a summary page, so info can be changed just once from each studio's respective list page, for better streamlining; sounds pretty ambitious, but I think it'll look MUCH better. - Rebel shadow 20:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Would like to see the release dates of DVD and Blu-ray added to the list so it is easy to tell which of the cannon films are available on home media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.119.55.85 (talk) 22:49, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with that is, which release date do we show? Which region's release dates are used? In my opinion, the individual film articles are better at discussing when their particular releases arrived on home video in the various regions. By the by, I moved your comment to a separate part of the subhead as it appeared within another's comment, and I wanted to leave their comment intact. --McDoobAU93 23:03, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New proposal: This article should sort films in a single list by date like in the List of Walt Disney Pictures films page, but with a column color-coded by studio, instead of separate lists of films which branch towards each studios' individual list pages, which is redundant. Details and technicalities for release dates and type of animation should only be noted in the individual studios' film lists and not on this list. List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films already has these details brought in from this page and more appropriately belongs there than here. Lead-in details would be concisely combined into the lead paragraphs and explain why many different studios are not releasing their films with WDS and not exclusively WDAS and Pixar. - Rebel shadow 18:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

To clarify what you mean, there should be a single film list where WDAS films are color-coded red and Pixar green, or something similar to that. Georgia guy (talk) 19:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yup; thinking red-orange to match the WDAS logo and light blue to match Pixar. But different from just a pure animation fork of the List of Walt Disney Pictures films page, this would also include Studio Ghibli and other releases by WDS. - Rebel shadow 19:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Any objections to this proposal? If not, I'll go ahead and reconfigure this page. And don't worry if it doesn't look complete after a couple edits.. Rebel shadow 19:24, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Seems promising. I'm in favor of it. ~ Jedi94 (talk) 23:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Key objectives to this new format
  • There shouldn't be any distinctions or notes about whether a film "has live action sequences" or is "cgi" or "traditionally animated"; this article is for films that are uniquely known/well known to be animated films and are associated with an animation studio.
  • Do not add ratings, reception data, or "sources" for films listed; those can be found elsewhere on each individual films' articles
  • Sources are needed around dates; Release dates or either original wide release date in the U.S. or in the territory where the film was released/distributed by The Walt Disney Studios. If the film was a limited release only, then that date should be noted. Citations for release dates for future films should be noted, otherwise each individual films' pages should have citations and additional special release dates listed.
Rebel shadow 22:56, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Issues with new format Hi everyone - I really liked being able to easily see the list of the animated classics in the past. Would there be objections to having this as a separate article? Ie the (currently 52) films that make up the animated classics collection. I agree that this new joint list is good for seeing all disneys but it would be nice to have those separated out and including a collum in a table for them with their official number - Thoughts lordmwa (talk) 21:12, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi lordmwa, the "films that make up the animated classics collection" are already listed in the separate article List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films. The flagship studio, WDAS, seems right now to be the only studio that markets films by number--maybe to a certain extent Pixar does as well--, but numbers for the other sublists included in the previous version of the article were redundant in that those studios did not market their films as officially numbered since only one or a couple films produced by non-Disney-owned studios are if ever released through Walt Disney Pictures. --Rebel shadow 02:36, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Wonderful! Thanks a lot, Keep up the good work :) lordmwa (talk) 07:06, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List comparison

This article is a group of lists; I want to know if there are any thoughts on whether the word "List" at the beginning of the title should be "Lists". Georgia guy (talk) 14:30, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Traditional Animation off for 4 years

What happened to Hand Drawn Animation at Disney? Didn't John Lasseter like it anymore? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.224.232.88 (talk) 13:46, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You would probably need to ask Mr. Lasseter about that. Unfortunately, this is not the place to discuss that. The talk page is intended to be used by editors who are working to improve the article, not to discuss the article subject. --McDoobAU93 15:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
IMO the article shouldn't discriminate or make note about whether a film was "traditionally animated" or was a mix of or has live-action scenes. The detailed lists from each respective studio should include those technicalities and details. This list should only provide an overview. -- Rebel shadow 20:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Zootopia, Giants, Moanna

What's the difference among these 3 films that makes it so that the external link recently added is a reliable source for Zootopia and Giants but not Moanna?? Georgia guy (talk) 17:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The original source (which was deleted, but its cached version can be accessed here) was not certain about the "Moana"'s release date.--Carniolus (talk) 15:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Uh oh!

http://www.disneyanimation.com/studio/our-films changed its official list. It omits The Many Adventures of Winnie-the-Pooh and The Rescuers, but includes Paperman. Georgia guy (talk) 23:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd wait it out before making any drastic edits; looks like they just launched this updated portion of their site. Otherwise any discussion on inclusion/edits to the official WDAS list should be made here. -- Rebel shadow 20:10, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Update. The site corrected its list to include the 2 films mentioned above. However, it also still includes Paperman. Georgia guy (talk) 20:25, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings for movies

If the other animation companies (DreamWorks, Blue Sky e.g.) have their rating on the list, then why can't Disney? --Adam the silly (talk) 15:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS states that just because a similar page is organized one way doesn't mean that all pages like it must be organized the same way. Why should we include critical ratings that are primarily US-centric? Shouldn't that be left to the individual articles? --McDoobAU93 16:18, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly what you mean the ratings are US-centric? Don't the ratings apply to all the people in the world. What is different in each world is box office performance, and that isn't what was being added. --Adam the silly (talk) 17:25, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The ratings used in Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes are almost entirely based in the United States. That's what I mean by US-centric. --McDoobAU93 19:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I never agreed that it should be added on this page if your aim is to add ratings for individual animation companies. For these films specifically in the WDAS "canon" it's more appropriate to add under a 'Critical Response' section in the List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films page or in a self-contained table there (separate from the main list table), and don't add ratings here since this page is for overall Disney-branded films. This page needs some major reworking as it is. -- Rebel shadow 21:40, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

No numbers

I remember the good old list that had the Disney classic films 1-54 with numbers. Any way to bring the numbers back?? Georgia guy (talk) 23:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can find that at List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films. - Rebel shadow 00:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

New List Format

I have frequently used this wiki page as a quick reference for Disney animated features. I think the new condensed format leaves out much information and is not as intuitive to use. I preferred the old format from a user perspective. Although I am not one to edit wiki pages myself, could there possibly be a discussion about this from editors and users before anyone decides to revamp the page? -99.6.108.182 (talk) 14:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Let us know which information you think was left out, 99.6.108.182, and we can add it to this list. The former format was more so a bunch of lists that mainly taken from other studio's films articles. If you are looking for separate lists of films see List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films or List of Pixar films, or separate film lists should be within this list. - Rebel shadow 17:38, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

The multiple lists is the feature I really liked about the page. It was nice having them all in one spot rather than having them scattered. I understand the streamlined list is essentially the same thing, but perhaps descriptions of each colour-coded category? The old format had brief descriptions of what made each studio different. Again, I realise you are trying to alleviate repetition from other pages, but that was the reason I would frequently refer to this page as a reference. It had all the information I might need to know in one place. For instance maybe another column may be added for films in the supposed 'canon'. I don't like the term myself, but there ARE films that Disney designates with a number.

I have a problem with that. For the upcoming films, the films are set up to follow this rule:
Whenever there are 2 upcoming animated movies that whether they are the same film is questionable, Wikipedia is supposed to accept without proof that they are not the same. Thus, it would suggest that there are 62 films, not 58, in the canon. Georgia guy (talk) 23:39, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A number doesn't need to be included until the film has been released. Rebel Shadow has created a separate list for films that have not yet been released. Disney gives their official number only after the film has been released or soon before. While I don't necessarily agree with their number system (Dinosaur), it is helpful to know what film is being referred to in media when they are only referred to by their number.99.6.108.182 (talk) 17:00, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As for "Dinosaur", we just have to accept it that Disney officially includes Dinosaur in its sequence, like it or not. Georgia guy (talk) 18:30, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. That's not my issue. I would just like the designated numbers to appear on this list as well. Having all the information on a single page was extremely useful to me as a user and now I have to visit multiple pages to find the information I am looking for. 99.6.108.182 (talk) 22:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The purpose of this list is not to be a "list of lists", and designated numbers are only relevant for WDAS films because they only regularly market their films as nth releases (the only exception would be Pixar). In addition, releases by Non-Disney-owned studios as numbered and listed by the previous version of the page was just a conglomarated list of films from different studios; their relation to each other was ambiguous at best. However, Studio Ghibli films seemed to be important enough to be listed separately. - Rebel shadow 02:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest if you are seeking to use this list as films separated and sorted by studio, clicking on the triangle in the column header of the Animated Studio column will sort films separated by studio, albeit films are not numbered. - Rebel shadow 02:28, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


Hand-Drawn Animation vs. Computer-Animation

If computer-animation will be loses, hand-drawn animation wins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.65.140.59 (talk) 23:22, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Distribution companies

Before I edited this list, it stated that all of Disney's animated films had been originally distributed by Walt Disney Pictures, a film label that did not exist until 1984. All pre-1953 Disney animated feature films were originally released by RKO Radio Pictures, as Disney did not have its own distribution company. The one exception is Fantasia, which Disney originally road-showed on its own. The live-action Victory Through Air Power was released by United Artists, and the True-Life Adventures were the start of Disney's own distribution company Buena Vista Distribution. Buena Vista distributed product from Walt Disney Productions (still no "Walt Disney Pictures" or "The Walt Disney Company" at the time) through 1984, when Walt Disney Pictures and Touchstone Pictures were created as film labels under Buena Vista. Buena Vista changed its name to Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures in 2007.

Most of this information should be found on the The Walt Disney Company and Walt Disney Animation Studios articles. Just wanted to make sure this was all clear before someone tried to fly into a rage and revert the page back (by the way, the organization/ordering arrows still work just fine with the separated headers breaking the eras apart).--FuriousFreddy (talk) 04:46, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Colours in table

Possibly I'm missing something obvious, but I don't see any key to the colour codes in the final column of the tables? While on the subject, relying on colour coding alone isn't very accessible! - Khendon (talk) 06:46, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is still true. Was the key removed at some point, or what has happened? Clearly it is not right. 85.217.20.78 (talk) 16:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What about Cinderella II & Cinderella III: A Twist in Time?

They are not feature films theatrically releases, they were direct-to-video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.198.171 (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They are not included in the list, so not sure what the point of this thread is. --McDoobAU93 20:15, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

who cares whether a movie is direct-to-video or direct-to-tv or direct-to-vhs or direct-to-torrent... a movie is a movie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.29.172 (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because the title of the article is "List of Disney theatrical animated features". --McDoobAU93 03:27, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea

The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea (2000) is not on the list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid_II:_Return_to_the_Sea — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.29.172 (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just as the others, these are direct-to-video and not theatrical releases. If you can find a reliable source indicating the film got a theatrical release somewhere, then it might be included. --McDoobAU93 03:33, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What about studio Ghibli Castle in the Sky?

I noticed that there are a few films from studio Ghibli that did not make the list. For instance Castle in the sky, The cat returns, My neighbor Totoro, Whisper of the heart, Spirited Away, and The secret world of Arrietty. I am sure there are more but I can't think of them right now. Can you please look into them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.87.230 (talk) 23:49, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As these films were, as you indicated, produced by Studio Ghibli, they are not Disney films. --McDoobAU93 03:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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