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History

What information is there about the history of boilersuits? When were they first made, etc? Anthony Appleyard 22:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Split?

Shouldn't this be split into different articles? It looks pretty confusing as it is now... Zigzig20s 01:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of "Boiler Suit"

I was told by a relative, who grew up in a shipbuilding town in Scotland in the 1930s, that the name "boiler suit" originated in the use of the garments by the men who's job it was to descale the boilers of steam ships, a particularly filthy and unpleasant job, even in an era of hard physical work.

This sounds completely plausible however I've not been able to find any on-line source to confirm it, as searches for "boiler descaling" and "history" don't seem to find anything useful. Is there any way this can be included in the article (or the Boilersuit section of it)? The spirit of winter 20:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is (British) archive film of a locomotive fitter sweeping the soot off the inside of a firebox during a routine service. To do this he got right inside, entering feet first through the firehole door, which is only just large enough for a man. It is quite obvious from this footage that any other kind of clothing would get caught on the way through. But no, I have no other references for it yet. EdJogg (talk) 23:53, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Verification query

Someone added this query box: "Information in this article or section has not been verified against sources and may not be reliable. Please check for inaccuracies and modify as needed, citing the sources against which it was checked.". Which bits of info in page Overall are queryable? Anthony Appleyard 13:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pockets

It would be useful to include some discussion about the different pockets sewn on the bib, their uses and how they evolved. D. Fairbourn (10/31/2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.65.134.213 (talk • contribs)

I agree. Do you know of any reliable sources that describe the subject? ~a (user • talk • contribs) 18:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barefoot and overalls

How about a section dealing with bare feet and overalls? The two are very closely associated with each other sometimes. Perhaps even a picture too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.148.243.131 (talk) 18:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Erh???? If the work is dirty or impact-risky enough to need a boilersuit, then work boots are also needed. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, maybe the poster was thinking about something other than work? (Just a guess!) -- EdJogg (talk) 13:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uses of overalls

Dr. Thomas Blasingame (a petroleum engineering professor at Texas A&M University) is notorious for wearing an overall on every occasion from daily wear to official events. AND? So did my grandfather. Does this add to the entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.253.172 (talk) 15:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Line Spacing

Is there a reason why the line spacing in the History section is different from that in the rest of the article? Ileanadu (talk) 04:04, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is simply that a number of editors have added unrelated 'historical facts' in loosely chronological order, and no-one has since taken the section by the scruff of the neck and shaken it into shape. It has 'that spacing' because each sentence exists as a separate paragraph. The text needs filtering -- some is not worth keeping, some should be in other sections, much is unreferenced -- and combining into encyclopaedic prose. -- EdJogg (talk) 12:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mix up?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page Not Moved - WP:RM is for whole page moves only - please use WP:MM Ronhjones ^(Talk) 22:54, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Overall → [[move parts of the article to Jumpsuit]] —

This page seem to have a mix of information on both overalls (bib-and-brace trousers) and coveralls (like jumpsuits). What should it be, really? Is the same term used for both pieces of clothing in English or would it be better to transfer the parts about boilersuits to the article jumpsuit? The Great Cucumber (talk) 20:06, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy close this is not a requested move, it is a merge request. It should be delisted immediately. 76.66.197.17 (talk) 05:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment — I agree that Overall has content on two different garments. In American English, "overall" can refer to either a jumpsuit or a bib overall. It is a disambiguation problem. Move this article to Bib overall, then transfer the content about other overalls to the other article(s). --Una Smith (talk) 05:21, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Una Smith's solution on this seems like a good idea. -Ulla — 15:33, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Here in England "overall" can mean "boilersuit" :: I should know, I am wearing one as I type this. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:47, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I get the impression that a boilersuit may be clasified as a sort of jumpsuit, but not all jumpsuits are boilersuits. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:53, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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All meanings of overall

Isn't overall also a word which can mean "on the whole, comprehensive, all-embracing"? There are many articles on Wikipedia with titles like Overall length, Length overall, Overall majority, Overall equipment effectiveness, etc. For me, who don't have English as my first language, I would appreciate a sort of disambiguation page explaining this. Paved with good intentions (talk) 15:30, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Overall/Coverall/Jumpsuit

I've never heard "overall" or "overalls" used to mean a full body (arms, legs, and torso covered), one-piece garment. To me, such a garment would be "coveralls" (or perhaps a "coverall"), which I would consider a type of jumpsuit. "Overalls," to me, are a pair of denim or twill pants (US usage) with a bib and suspenders (US usage) that attach over the shoulders.

The distinction seems pretty simple to me, but apparently there is some confusion on this. If people are in fact using "overalls" to refer to coveralls, then this page should reflect that usage in some way. As such, it seems like both uses are mixed in all sections, and it's never quite clear which is being discussed.