Talk:Tesla Roadster (second generation)

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Two pages?

Since when do we have different pages for different generations of cars (Tesla Roadster (2008) and Tesla Roadster (2020))? --Ita140188 (talk) 12:09, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They are completely different cars. The 2008-2012 car is an electrified Lotus Elise. And we already have two separate articles for that, one for the Elise and one for the Tesla. This car, is unrelated to the earlier car, except by name. It is a different platform, different body. If two cars were to be combined, it would be the Elise and the 2008-2012 Roadster, and not this 2020 Roadster, since the 2008-2012 Roadster and the Lotus Elise are very similar. -- 70.51.45.76 (talk) 15:02, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As for two different generations having different articles, what do you think all the Corvette articles are for? Chevrolet Corvette (C6) / Chevrolet Corvette (C5) / Chevrolet Corvette (C4) etc -- 70.51.45.76 (talk) 15:04, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
See discussions here and here. I'm opposed to these future product stubs, and I'm not alone. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:39, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I see you are opposed, but this is something that has plenty of notability that would pass WP:NOTE with flying colors. If you want to take this up to a VfD, I think you would lose. I agree that these really are two different vehicles. It is also highly unlikely that this vehicle will get cancelled unless Tesla itself goes out of business. Give it time for things to develop here, and as always use reliable sources to write this article and keep it neutral.
It is disappointing that Tesla did not choose to call this something substantially different, or at least say it is the "Roadster II". Still, its performance characteristics and fabrication methods are going to be so radically different that they really are vastly different vehicles. Even the number of passengers is going to be different with this new vehicle having a back seat and is going to be physically larger in a number of ways. It really is a different vehicle.
I am also supporting this as a separate article so far as to keep all of the speculation and barrage of new details about this vehicle to be separated from the article about the historic vehicle. From a purely article management perspective and for Wikipedia admins to deal with contributors, it will be far easier to deal with two separate vehicles. It has been formally announced as a vehicle with even several reporters having actually had a chance to ride inside of the vehicle and give independent accounts about it (at least the prototype that was at the unveiling). More will come in the future. Let's keep all of those tweets from Elon Musk about this vehicle along with other news stories that will eventually happen (and no, this isn't WP:CRYSTAL) confined to just here instead of messing up what is arguably a pretty good article already. --Robert Horning (talk) 02:23, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]