Talk:Turkey

Establishment section in the infobox

Something has caught my attention. Every other country with Turkish imperial traces or history has some kind of mention in the infobox section. Hungary simply mentions the Battle of Mohacs while Albania says it gained independence from the Ottoman State. Why does Turkey not have any mention of Ottoman History?It just says establishment then war of independence. Am I the only one confused by this? GeorgePodros ^(talk) 18:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

This has been discussed several times earlier, but has usually drowned in other discussions, so it has never been brought to a conclusion. See Talk:Turkey/Archive 26 for some of the latest discussions. Like then, I am still not negative to adding "Ottoman Empire 1299" or similar to the "Establishment" section of the infobox under certain conditions. However, in order to get sufficient input and a clear consensus to such a discussion, I think it needs to be formalized through a WP:RfC. --T*U (talk) 12:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

I understand where you’re coming from but you should see some of these countries on Wikipedia, they seem to make it look like some countries have existed for centuries of thousands of years with their establishment sections in the info box. Take some of the former Turkish dominions, they may not even mention Turkish conquest, and other countries seem to have no mention of any invasion or their defenuct status over the centuries, I’m just saying let’s do what France or Spain has in the info box, I mean I’m not asking to put Seljuk or any other history, because that’s not continuous, and even though many countries have establishment sections which make non conintious history look continuous, I just want it to be continuous. So we could do ottoman principality established 1299, and then maybe whenever turkey became the Ottoman Empire, perhaps 1453, then of course allied occupation of parts of anatolia, war of independence and declaration of republic. Maybe just ottoman state 1299, and the same info in the info box as we have now. Do we need to go through the process you mentioned sir? Most if not all countries have non continuous history as if it was continuous, I just want to say turkey was here before 1923, not some crazy thing like Seljuk and maybe even mention manzikert lol. Just ottoman state, which has continued throughout till 1923 then turkey became a republic. GeorgePodros ^(talk) 22:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Official name only in Turkish or also in regional languages?

Should we only use Turkish for the infobox and lead, or also include regional languages such as Kurdish? I have started a discussion here as it would be good to be consistent. If we use Hebrew and Arabic for Israel, it would make sense to include Kurdish here (or to decide to only go for the official language). To avoid splitting the discussion, I suggest discussing at the discussion under the link above. Jeppiz (talk) 13:28, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

• Turkish only: It is not possible to make any "general rule" about this, since the situation is different from country to country, it is not a question of black or white. It is ruled by existing guidelines and local consensus. In this article, me thinks No! --T*U (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)