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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 01:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Belzan

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... that one of Liverpool's best restaurants serves a rice pudding flavoured with a substance banned in the United States for its lethality? Source: The Guardian: "my strongest memory of Liverpool on this visit [...] was a plate (not a bowl, nor a ramekin) of lukewarm, decidedly unbeautiful rice pudding topped with pear steeped in Lillet vermouth. The rice was flavoured with tonka bean [...] Sure, it has been banned in the US since 1954 because large quantities of it can kill you"
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Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Jonathan Deamer (talk) 11:30, 7 April 2024 (UTC).

As written, this article would deserve {{no lead}}, and "serves" violates WP:NOTPRICE. (There's an argument that "best restaurants" could date as well, but I'm less bothered by it.) On the second count, I recommend something like the following:

ALT1: ... that in a 2018 review for one of Liverpool's best restaurants, critic Grace Dent wrote of being served a rice pudding flavoured with a substance banned in the United States for its lethality?--Laun chba ller 10:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer Thanks for the feedback! All fair. Have added a proper lead, and I think that's forced some improvements in the article's overall structure too. I hear you on WP:NOTPRICE, so to keep the hook really tight how about:

ALT2: ... that critic Grace Dent wrote of a Liverpool restaurant serving her a rice pudding flavoured with a substance banned in the United States for its lethality?

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Fine by me. Full review needed.--Laun chba ller 19:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall:

Looks good. Approving ALT2. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:35, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * ... that '''[[Belzan|one of Liverpool's best restaurants]]''' serves a [[rice pudding]] flavoured with a [[Dipteryx odorata|substance banned in the United States]] for its lethality? <small>Source: [https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/apr/20/belzan-liverpool-restaurant-review-grace-dent The Guardian]: "my strongest memory of Liverpool on this visit [...] was a plate (not a bowl, nor a ramekin) of lukewarm, decidedly unbeautiful rice pudding topped with pear steeped in Lillet vermouth. The rice was flavoured with tonka bean [...] Sure, it has been banned in the US since 1954 because large quantities of it can kill you"</small>
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 ::'''ALT1''': ... that in a 2018 review for '''[[Belzan|one of Liverpool's best restaurants]]''', critic [[Grace Dent]] wrote of being served a [[rice pudding]] flavoured with a [[Dipteryx odorata|substance banned in the United States]] for its lethality?--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<u style="color:#00F">Laun</u>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<u style="color:#00F">chba</u>]][[Special:Contribs/Launchballer|<u style="color:#00F">ller</u>]]</span> 10:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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