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:My aim was to inform the Arbitration Committee about the general atmosphere of incivility, not to single you out in some way, and I did not mention your name. However, you may want to consider submitting some evidence of your own to put a few of these diffs in context, and/or think about saying something about them in the workshop. Or perhaps it is better not to participate as long as your name is not mentioned in the workshop, I'm not sure. {{u|Tryptofish}} and a number of clerks and Arbs have given some advice about this on {{u|Roxy the dog}}'s talk page. <span style="text-shadow:#000 0em 0em 1em">☿&nbsp;[[User:Apaugasma|<span style="color:#6a0dad">Apaugasma</span>]] ([[User talk:Apaugasma|<span style="color:#000">talk</span>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Apaugasma|☉]])</span> 20:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
:My aim was to inform the Arbitration Committee about the general atmosphere of incivility, not to single you out in some way, and I did not mention your name. However, you may want to consider submitting some evidence of your own to put a few of these diffs in context, and/or think about saying something about them in the workshop. Or perhaps it is better not to participate as long as your name is not mentioned in the workshop, I'm not sure. {{u|Tryptofish}} and a number of clerks and Arbs have given some advice about this on {{u|Roxy the dog}}'s talk page. <span style="text-shadow:#000 0em 0em 1em">☿&nbsp;[[User:Apaugasma|<span style="color:#6a0dad">Apaugasma</span>]] ([[User talk:Apaugasma|<span style="color:#000">talk</span>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Apaugasma|☉]])</span> 20:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

::{{re|Apaugasma}} thank you for the ping. I have now read your evidence. I had a rather strong reaction to it, that you were (metaphorically speaking, of course) throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. Even if you don't mention people by name, it still comes across like you are criticizing them by citing their diffs. There are an awful lot of diffs repeated from earlier evidence sections, and about editors who are not parties (and at least one of whom has retired). --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 21:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:18, 21 January 2022

Ping

I saw your ping, I will respond later this morning, when I'm strapped to the Chemo chair and have free wifi and an ipad. They strap me down because the first time I had this, I woke up on the floor. You'll understand I'm a little busy until then. regards Roxy the dog. wooF 07:34, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. Take all the time you need. --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:04, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting some article expansion help

Greetings @ Hob Gadling,

This request is being made since you seem to have engaged in topics related to Superstition.

Requesting your visit to the article Draft:Irrational beliefs and help expand the same if the topic interests you.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 07:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not very good at expanding articles. Not my thing. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:48, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You should archive some of these sections!

The section list is super long! It’s like 200 sections in the same page, so much that the page has been zoomed out! Please fix this! GregYoot (talk) 20:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just copied an archive thingie from somebody else's page. Let's see if it works. --Hob Gadling (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 2022

(removed notice) I have blocked you for violating WP:CIVIL; you told someone to fuck off here, and made a personal attack. 331dot (talk) 21:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot You are blocking an editor for alleged violations committed (respectively) about 5 months ago and 2.5 years ago? By policy, blocks shall be preventative and not punitive. TrangaBellam (talk) 22:00, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I apologize, I did this after the posts were pointed out to me, I did not carefully check the date and assumed it was an immediate problem. This is my error and mine alone, and I apologize without condition. 331dot (talk) 22:08, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem. (Except all those edit conflicts.) --Hob Gadling (talk) 22:09, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Looking through my new Talk page archive, considering the fact that the user who told me I should archive it [1] is the same one who started this [2]: all edits he complained about had been discussed on my Talk page, and that is where the links came from. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Trump supporters

Would you please consider editing your comment at Talk:Anthony Fauci to remove "It is nice to hear that you consider "Trump supporter" a "smear", but a reliably sourced fact is a reliably sourced fact." Aside from that bit of snark, you answer the (supposed) question well, but it helps no one to add fuel to fires already burning too bright. Thank you, SchreiberBike | ⌨  16:12, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your turn. Do it better. --Hob Gadling (talk) 18:13, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@User:SchreiberBike: You thanked me for telling you to do it better, but did not even try find a better response? Please refrain from coming here to tone-police me in the future. Tone-policing adds fuel to fires, have you thought of that? No need to answer, that was rhetorical. --Hob Gadling (talk) 20:01, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Seemed a bit backwards from the source, so have rephrased it as "Fauci's advice was frequently contradicted by Trump, and Trump's supporters alleged that Fauci was trying to politically undermine Trump's run for reelection." It's not Fauchi's place to bow to the Prezzy's medical expertise. . dave souza, talk 19:09, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Much better now. I like it when complaints by profringe users lead to articles becoming less fringe. --Hob Gadling (talk) 20:01, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Olive branch

Hello Hob Gadling. I apologize for the distractions at talk:Bret Weinstein. I try to remind myself not to respond in the moment, and sometimes I fail. You're right of course, I should have saved my vaccine status particulars for "later", should someone have taken the tack I anticipated; pre-emptively inserting it was practically begging for backlash. I'm human, I can be an ass-hat, a dumb-ass (related terms?) and more terms I will reserve that are between me and my god, or words to that effect. Two years of COVID have frayed my nerves. I wish it would just. Go. Away.

I will now go away, off to my more typical efforts here on WP of fixing grammar, and copyediting for clarity. cheers. Anastrophe (talk) 22:31, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I have similar problems... Sorry. --Hob Gadling (talk) 22:58, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think this draft is ready for mainspace, and would like your opinion. I have moved the list to the talk page for now, to develop a specific consensus as to how it should be included. Cheers! BD2412 T 02:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom

Hi Hob Gadling. In the recent ArbCom case about GSoW, you made a reference to people asking "Are you, or have you ever been, a member of...?" I was just wondering if that was maybe a reference to a question I asked at COIN: [3]. If that is the case, I will maybe just add a note to explain the Catch-22 situation between COI and OUTING. Otherwise, I don't intend to comment on the case. This question is supposed to have a friendly tone and does not imply any sort of conflict or hostility against you, by the way. JBchrch talk 00:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That refers to the general atmosphere, not to specific contributions. I can't even remember where to put you. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Skepticism and coordinated editing arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing/Evidence. Please note: per Arbitration Policy, ArbCom is accepting private evidence by email. If in doubt, please email and ArbCom can advise you whether evidence should be public or private. Please add your evidence by January 31, 2022, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. You may unsubscribe from further updates by removing your name from the case notification list.

For the Arbitration Committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Hob Gadling, I have just submitted evidence with regard to incivility and what I perceive to be POV problems in the skepticism area. Quite a lot of the diffs in the 'General atmosphere of incivility' section come from your edits. I just wanted to let you know.
My aim was to inform the Arbitration Committee about the general atmosphere of incivility, not to single you out in some way, and I did not mention your name. However, you may want to consider submitting some evidence of your own to put a few of these diffs in context, and/or think about saying something about them in the workshop. Or perhaps it is better not to participate as long as your name is not mentioned in the workshop, I'm not sure. Tryptofish and a number of clerks and Arbs have given some advice about this on Roxy the dog's talk page. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ) 20:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Apaugasma: thank you for the ping. I have now read your evidence. I had a rather strong reaction to it, that you were (metaphorically speaking, of course) throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. Even if you don't mention people by name, it still comes across like you are criticizing them by citing their diffs. There are an awful lot of diffs repeated from earlier evidence sections, and about editors who are not parties (and at least one of whom has retired). --Tryptofish (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]