User talk:Jayjg/Archive 38

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Did You Know problem

Hi. I've reviewed your DYK submission for the article Congregation Beth Israel (Honesdale, Pennsylvania), and made a comment on it at the submissions page. Please feel free to reply or comment there. Cheers, Art LaPella (talk) 07:23, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately no. As I think the User:Art LaPella/No qualifying article link I provided explains, Congregation Beth Israel (Honesdale, Pennsylvania) does not yet qualify in its present condition. Specifically, Wikipedia:Did you know#Selection criteria states: "Articles should have a minimum of 1,500 characters (around 1.5 kilobytes) in main body prose (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables)." (This rule is further clarified at User:Art LaPella/Unwritten rules, rule number A2.) For this article, this amounts to counting only the 3 paragraphs starting with "Congregation..." and ending with "...Smith.[1]" The purpose of the "main body prose only" rule is hard to explain, but they enforce it rigidly. So I count 497 bytes. If you could make the prose portion about 3 times longer (the infobox, references and categories don't count), you would pass my phase of the Did You Know review. Art LaPella (talk) 00:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's long enough. It's barely long enough, so someone might ask you to if you could make it longer, and it probably wouldn't be picked first. But it will probably be picked unless there is a problem unrelated to length. When I said "rigidly" I meant outside the gray area from about 1300 to about 1900. Art LaPella (talk) 02:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Harper's Magazine

Congratulations on being mentioned in the July 2008 edition of Harper's Magazine! Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Congregation Beth Israel (Lebanon, Pennsylvania)

Hello Mr. Jay. We were successful in saving the article Congregation Beth Israel (Lebanon, Pennsylvania). I want to promote the article to the Good Article status. I will try my best. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Congregation Beth Israel (Lebanon, Pennsylvania)

On 28 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Congregation Beth Israel (Lebanon, Pennsylvania), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 16:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

holocaust denial talk

just wanted to let you know I started a topic about my revisions on the holocaust denial page. Hopefully see you there. --Circuitcheckr (talk) 16:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Great synagogues

This is fyl. Great synagogue, was a frequant usage in western and central Europe, Choral synagogue is the synonymous term in Eastern Europe. In scholarly literature, however, they are referred to as cathedral synagogues, a them no synagogue ever applies to itself. The term satisfies many Jewish scholars because avoids choosing between east andwest Europena terms. In great, choral or catheedral synagogues the goals were to: 1) build a big impressive building so that dignitaries could visit the Jews in an impressive space 2) have the worship within be decorous and synchronous, unlike orthodox congregations in which individuals pray at their own pace , disconcertin visiting dignitaries by standing up, bowing, and paraying aloud at varying times. The choir was there to drown out the sound of any off-cycle individual davening. hence, choral synagogues.

The work you are doing on congregations is admirable.Elan26 (talk) 20:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26

Weasel words

Many thanks for your continued diligence in removing weasel words from Holocaust denial. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 10:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Emanu-El

Hi! I'm not sure I understand your recent changes on Emanu-El. It seems that the synagogues that have Wikipedia pages were mostly (but not totally) changed to put the location in parentheses, but the other listings were left alone. This makes the list look, in my opinion, sloppy, as the list previously had consistency where all the entries were the same format. I didn't want to touch anything without asking you for your thought process on the page or to disrupt whatever work you might be doing there. I appreciate any help to make these pages better. Thanks. JerseyRabbi (talk) 12:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I completely understand why you changed the page names for the various synagogues to keep to a standard. I don't understand why the disambiguation page needs to show the names in the style of the link. If you look at the list of synagogues, it looks sloppy because the synagogues - those that are links and those that are not - are now all written differently. I think all the synagogues should be listed the same way. So unless you have a strenuous objection, I am going to make all the listings look the same. Of course the actual links will be to their correct - and in many cases new - link. But the internal Wikipedia link for a page need not be what is listed on the visible page (just as my username link doesn't include "User:" even though that is needed in the link.) Thanks for responding so speedily. JerseyRabbi (talk) 07:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

delayed reply - sorry about that

Hi Jayjg. I haven't been editing Wikipedia for a while (partly because I've been doing some research on it) but you left me a note on 15 July [1]. To answer the question... from the list of problems I highlighted the ones I feel impact Wikipedia the most are:

These cannot be replaced with any other source and are factually significant: [2] [3] (In the case of the second it is significant because of who the group are... they represent students in the final years of school about to enter university for the first time)

These are in an of themselves significant: [4] [5]

This one I'd include because it was cited in creating edit of this article (and presumably therefore contributed significantly to it): [6]

As to the value of the source... I would have thought a Jewish Agency best site award would more or less remove doubt on that. Although they aren't awarding new ones, they were only released to a limited numbers of sites those were checked by JAFI who's education department are perhaps the leaders in the area. - None of which really matters when the site is being refered to not for original content but as a storage space for archived material. (It was being linked to for both, but the links above are all either archives of material or original documentry evidence that can't be got else where.)

Thanks for your time on this. Sigh. What a waste of time and effort all around. Sorry again for the slow reply. Feel free to drop me an e-mail any time though.

Oboler (talk) 13:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Jayjg, thanks again for the help with this. I guess we now wait and see if he objects. Oboler (talk) 10:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

UEFA Cup 2008-09

Hi Jayjg,

I need you to take a look at UEFA Cup 2008-09 history to determine what status quo is. The issue is the scoring leaders' table. There has been an edit war between me and this guy called Grant and a decision from an admin not involved with the discussion on the talk page is needed. Kingjeff (talk) 22:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Dreamguy

Despite just being blocked for four days the restricted editor Dreamguy is still using his User page as an attack page against other editors. This is his latest comment at User talk:DreamGuy:

:"Ah. Well, then that's even more bizarre. The rewrite was in response to a couple of admins complaining that the one that is there now was too vague and showed bad faith against editors in general. I changed it to make it more clear, and everything in it was factual -- Elonka and Arcayne have both been described by admins as having harassed me. Elonka additionally has been blocked for said harassment in the past. I don't see how it at all violates my arbitration parole, and certainly if someone objected to it a more reasonable response would be to explain the problem and ask that it be changed, not just take it upon themselves to delete it permanently from the history and block me. The two admins in question probably should have left it to more impartial people. Kbthompson is directly involved in the conflict in question, and this is not the first time Jayig has blocked me for a reason that had no policy basis. But hey, it's a longstanding tradition here that certain admins seem to treat policies as things they are freely allowed to ignore in order to strike out at people they don't like."

I think he is thinking of adding you and Kb to the next version of his attack page. I.e. every admin who has given a judgement which is not in his favour is to be treated as a personal enemy involved in some vast plot against him. Colin4C (talk) 06:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Judaism

Hi. Have you followed this? You will see that I offered to make specific changes RPSM proposes if they comply with our core policies. Would you mind keeping an eye on this - if he does make specific proposals I and they conform with our policies I would appreciate your help in making changes to the articles; if he makes proposals that you think do not comply with our policies I would appreciate your pointing that out. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 10:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 31 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Congregation Beth Israel (New Orleans, Louisiana), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 04:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Mediation

Thanks for trying. I actually thought you had done a good job mediating thus far. I had asked for your assistance to act as a mediator after the mediation cabal had been unresponsive... it would appear they're very backlogged. Anyways, as long as the issue gets resolved I don't really care how, but thanks again. ← George ^[talk] 08:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hrm, it would appear that after being indefinitely blocked as a sock puppet, the user is back as IP address 77.42.134.185, and has taken up a more aggressive revert behavior. Any suggestions? ← George ^[talk] 02:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks! It's amazing, it looks like that user has used over a dozen sock puppets over the last year or more... talk about relentless. Anyways, thanks for taking care of this. ← George ^[talk] 02:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Reminder

I thought you having a yellow box would remind you to go here :) sorry for the pestering :) Seddσn ^{talk Editor Review} 22:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Just one last reminder to to let me know whether you accept the solution or not. Seddσn ^{talk Editor Review} 13:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks!

Thank you... ...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff 21:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Might you look into this?

DreamGuy, again. The Jack the Ripper article, again. Disruptively pushing edits without consensus, again. Incivility, again. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 17:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Reminder about Ethnic nationalism

You are receiving this message because you are listed as the protecting admin for Ethnic nationalism. The page has been semiprotected for longer than 2 months without an expiry date set. Because Wikipedia relies on contributers to make the encyclopedia, I'm asking you to review your decision and either

• Unprotect the page if protection is no longer needed, or
• set a reasonable expiry date for the protection instead of leaving it on forever

I hope that you will do one of the two in order to reduce the backlog of pages that have been semiprotected for very long period of time. Thank you. -Royalguard11(T) 19:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC) Why am I receiving this message?

Survey request

Hi,
I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Wikipedia. You are being contacted, because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.

Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!

The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions.

Thank You, BCeagle0312 (talk) 01:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

agudath israel etz ahayem

Why do you continue to edit the page on agudath israel etz ahayem with information that is not pertinent to the history. i am speaking as a member of the temple and a curious wikipedian.

Because other presidents have been awarded similar honors and to single out one president is kind of singling out one person. i would love to know how you know this information and why if it is so important why is it now on the synagogue's own website. also are you a member of this temple? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.73.135.119 (talk) 13:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

deleting my links

Dear Jayjg

i'm relatively new to wikipedia. I've spent time posting a link to the largest kosher certification agency in europe on several wikipedia sites. I've noticed that you have gone around and undid all my hard work. I'm not going around link spanning but have put a link on several relevant webpages that are relevant to kosher or kosher certification so i am really surprised by your actions. For all i know you might be working for another kosher agency but i don't know what i have done to upset you so much! Please can i respectfully ask you not to undo my work.

I await your response.

With kind regards Dari