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Thank you for your efforts

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Your scrutiny and care for Kurdish articles that regularly get vandalized is impressive and I thank you very much. I just wanted to say thanks. TataofTata (talk) 13:19, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for your efforts

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		Awarded for efforts in expanding and verifying articles related to the 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis and 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Awarded by Cdjp1 (talk) 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Anti Kurdish?

One Question: Why does you delete everything with Kurds, you know it that for example personalities are Kurdish, but you want source and many other things to. The Page „List of Albanian People in Turkey“ is also unsourced, and there it would be needed someone like you. Stop with that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:871:210:8428:C958:AC8F:9DD4:A976 (talk) 21:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is based on Wikipedia:Rs. --Semsûrî (talk) 21:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tribes in Settlements

The info you add is good, but I do not see any similar composition tables in districts or cities of other countries. How about if we think about another way how to include that info on wikipedia? I thought of own articles in which maybe also some info on tribes can be included. What do you think?Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Paradise Chronicle: Not sure where else to put the lists and I don't believe it will be helpful if we broke up the lists into pieces. I wasn't trying to put an emphasis on tribe but when its a Kurdish settlement it's just extra info that can be useful for the readers. I mainly wanted a list of settlements with local name + ethnic composition so having the list on the district center articles made must sense. If the lists become too large on at the province articles they can be removed but I don't see the problem with the lists at district articles. --Semsûrî (talk) 23:05, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion request

Dear Semsûrî, A few moments ago, I noticed the page Jaban al-Kurdi, which had almost no reliable sources, something already pointed out in previous entries in the talk page. I started a new discussion on its talk page so as to better the page or start the process of deletion. In order to speed up the discussion, I would be very happy if you could take a look at the page and the talk page. Since you and I seemingly deviate in our positions on certain matters, I think the consensus that will be reached would be objective. Thank you. Ayıntaplı (talk) 19:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ayıntaplı: I've found the article problematic for some time as well and I haven't been able to verify his existence through RS. Go ahead and start an AFD discussion. Semsûrî (talk) 19:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accidental Vandalism Discussion

Hello Semsûrî, I noticed you have been repeatedly removing any Assyrian-related content on the Assyrian/Kurdish/Anatolian Mastiff page, as well as other Assyrian-related pages. I have since then created a new page specifically for the Assyrian Mastiff to avoid further conflict. It seems that you may have accidentally attempted to remove that page and redirect it to the Kurdish Mastiff page after removing any information I added to the Kurdish Mastiff page. I encourage you to read through the sources I have listed as they explain my justification for the Assyrian Mastiff, one of the sources being Charles Darwin. If you would like to discuss this matter further in greater detail, please do not hesitate to reach out as I wish to understand your point of view, but what appears as unexplained and intentional vandalism is not appreciated. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaghassi (talk • contribs) 17:10, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deq (tattoo)

Hi, @Semsûrî! Two weeks ago, I proposed your article Deq (tattoo) for the Translation of the week project on Meta-Wiki. Up to now, it has received 4 positive votes. I would really appreciate it if you could vote here for the proposal to succeed so that other Wikipedias are encouraged to translate it. --Brunnaiz (talk) 20:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Map

Hello! I don't know if you noticed but Oghuz Turkic Languages distribution map.png that you removed here is a close-up of Turkic Languages distribution map.png, which does have its sources listed below in its description. — Golden ^{call me maybe?} 11:39, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Well you can revert my edit then. Semsûrî (talk) 12:06, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Removing without reason

You are removing cited information i have included on the page badra without any basis. I am using books listed on google scholar with ISBNs and directly quoting them. You havent even bothered to check and yet you remove. This is unacceptable and i advise you to read the sources and combine them with the already written literature Kurdishwarriorsdn (talk) 10:36, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vandilising

I have noticed you are vandalising certain pages by removing them without adequate reasoning, and therefore will report this to administrators if continues. Mike Chanley II (talk) 12:29, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism once again

User has reveresed my edit, that I made an for an article that stated it needed more sourcing and work. He reveresed my edit in less than 1 minute to me posting it on the Anfal Campaign page. Therefore it is impossible for him to have read it. 23:01, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

The title of Alevi Hearths

Hi Semsûrî,

I had a concern regarding the title of the page Alevi Hearths, which I discussed with the page's creator and would like to get your opinion as well, as you are the third user having edited the page. I don't recall any kind of meaning of the term "hearth" that corresponds to what "ocak" is in this sense. So, this is merely a literal translation, which I believe to be problematic. I propose that this page is renamed with a title that includes the term "ojak" (the Anglicized form of ocak), since "hearth" may be confusing. An instance of the usage of "ojak" in English can be found at [1]. So, the page could be moved to new addresses such as Alevi ojaks or Ojak (Alevism). This would also give us a chance to have a section for its etymology.

I've reached out to Kelhuri, the page's creator, and they believed that because "all the other 'Ocaklari' Turkish pages in English are called Hearths (Turkish Hearths, Idealist Hearths, etc)," the page should stay as so. I would support a move regarding these pages as well, because the same problem exists within them as well. The thing is I've suggested that this page could be moved to Ojak, which many pages are linked with. I think the involvement of tens of other pages irked Kelhuri, causing their disagreement. However, I believe my current proposal to rename the page as Alevi ojaks or Ojak (Alevism) is much more convenient.

So, I look forward to hearing your opinion, because the current state of the page doesn't feel right. Perhaps, you can persuade me that this is a correct practice or agree with me. Ayıntaplı (talk) 02:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I only know ocak as hearth and have never heard of 'ojak'. In my opinion it should be either Hearth (Alevism) or Ocak (Alevism). Semsûrî (talk) 16:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So, the main meaning of "ocak" is something like "stove" or "fireplace," which is what "hearth" is, but "ocak" in Alevism is a social term. And "hearth" doesn't have such a meaning. Am I wrong? If there isn't a specific social meaning of "hearth," this would be similar to translating the word for January in Turkish, which is also "ocak," as "hearth."

The reason I favor "ojak" instead of "ocak" is purely to prevent any confusion in pronunciation and fully fit it into the English language. There are more instances of "ojak": [2] Based on these, would you support the page to be moved to Ojak (Alevism)? Ayıntaplı (talk) 18:57, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When English-language texts write about the Alevi term they do use the term 'hearth' if not 'ocak'. I would just go with 'ocak' per Wikipedia:COMMONNAME. Semsûrî (talk) 22:27, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, thank you for your time. Ayıntaplı (talk) 12:30, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you at least link the Turkish page "Alevi ocaklari" to this one in Wikidata items? Kelhuri (talk) 18:08, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Danish general election

Hello. I was just wondering where in the source you are getting the vote totals from? I can only see the percentages for each party, not the votes. Cheers, Number 5 7 22:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Number 57: Hello, so the numbers are from DR but they don't use absolute votes on their site for whatever reason. Other sites use them though like JP and TV2. Though there is a small discrepancy between the numbers. Hope it helped. Semsûrî (talk) 22:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. How can the numbers be from DR if they are not actually there? Are you back-calculating them from the percentages? Or are you using a different source? If you're using a different source, can you add that to the table instead? Number 5 7 22:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What I mean is that sites like TV2 and Jyllandposten do use numbers they somehow have received from DR yet DR themselves seemingly only care for seats and % for their site. Nonetheless, I'll add the TV2 numbers to the table, but they seem a bit weird tbh. Semsûrî (talk) 22:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, a suspicious number of percentages ending with a zero at 2dp. I wonder if they are backcalculating the vote figures from the DR numbers... Number 5 7 22:31, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would just wait and not update the numbers. Venstre just lost votes and Social Democrats have been at their current 900K since 50% counted. Semsûrî (talk) 22:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Number 57: If you want to use a site that also gives numbers for independents, you can use this one[3] You would need to make a change for all parties though. Scroll down at click on 'partier' on the right. Semsûrî (talk) 22:46, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why was my contribution in ismail al-jazari reversed ?, it contains more than enough of references required

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ismail_al-Jazari&oldid=1124131723

I wonder what’s wrong there … Amr.elmowaled (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See talkpage. Semsûrî (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Same tribe?

I think these are the same tribe: Shaqaqi (tribe) and Shekak (tribe). The first lives anywhere east of Urmia, and the second lives west of Urmia. Name variants mentioned in each page almost fully coincide, and sources further use these names interchangeably. Even Vladimir Minorsky uses both names here: [4]. He mentions the presence of Shaqaqi (tribe) in the region that Shekak (tribe) inhabists. Plus, according to the first version of the page Shaqaqi (tribe) ([5]), it was an offshoot of Shekak (tribe). I believe this page should be a redirect to Shekak (tribe) and the content with good sources should be transferred, because Shaqaqi (tribe) lacks a lot, and the content isn't that much to have multiple pages for the same thing. Although their identicality is very obvious in my opinion, I would like to check with you in case this is too controversial. Sorry for frequently bothering you. Thank you. Ayıntaplı (talk) 07:39, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure but Iranica also seem to treat them as oneŠekkāk. Semsûrî (talk) 18:12, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Village Categories

Hello, Semsûrî,

Please do not remove all of the articles from categories so they are tagged for CSD C1 deletion. This is called "emptying categories out of process" and is considered disruptive, especially when you are doing this with multiple categories. If you believe a category, or categories, should be renamed, merged or deleted, please make a proposal at Categories for Discussion so that other editors may participate in a discussion about your recategorization efforts.

Categories do not exist in isolation and it could be that other categories need to be included in whatever work you are doing or will be affected. Mass deletion or recategorization of categories on Wikipedia is best handled by bots, not manually, so I encourage you to make a proposal at CFD so this work can be discussed and handled there. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:15, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Villages in Turkey

Hi, I noticed that you redirected a large number of articles about villages in Turkey. This is not right, for a number of reasons. First: there is not even mention of the villages in the redirect targets (e.g. Boyundere, Tut is not mentioned at all in Tut, Turkey). Second: legally recognized, populated places are presumed to be notable (see the guideline WP:NGEO). Third: the articles were referenced (2011 population census), and probably with a little effort more information about these places can be found. I think the articles should be restored. Markussep ^Talk 11:47, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 Categories do not exist in isolation and it could be that other categories need to be included in whatever work you are doing or will be affected. Mass deletion or recategorization of categories on Wikipedia is best handled by bots, not manually, so I encourage you to make a proposal at CFD so this work can be discussed and handled there. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 01:15, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
+== Villages in Turkey ==
+Hi, I noticed that you redirected a large number of articles about villages in Turkey. This is not right, for a number of reasons. First: there is not even mention of the villages in the redirect targets (e.g. [[Boyundere, Tut]] is not mentioned at all in [[Tut, Turkey]]). Second: legally recognized, populated places are presumed to be notable (see the guideline [[WP:NGEO]]). Third: the articles were referenced (2011 population census), and probably with a little effort more information about these places can be found. I think the articles should be restored. [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 11:47, 14 December 2022 (UTC)