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Please re-visit the discussion. There is no "POV promotion" going on anywhere - the reliable sources (newspaper articles from the ''[[Arizona Republic]]'' and ''[[Phoenix Business Journal]]'') ''call him a philanthropist'' and describe his activities in detail. They ''discuss his childhood'', they ''discuss his politics'', and they discuss those seemingly unimportant aspects. Those sections are important because ''the reliable sources *say* they are important by discussing them''. |
Please re-visit the discussion. There is no "POV promotion" going on anywhere - the reliable sources (newspaper articles from the ''[[Arizona Republic]]'' and ''[[Phoenix Business Journal]]'') ''call him a philanthropist'' and describe his activities in detail. They ''discuss his childhood'', they ''discuss his politics'', and they discuss those seemingly unimportant aspects. Those sections are important because ''the reliable sources *say* they are important by discussing them''. |
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[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 00:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC) |
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 00:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC) |
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Thank you for taking a look. Here are my thoughts. |
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*1. The reason why I presented his career chronologically but separated other aspects is because I remembered seeing other biography articles separate "personal life" into separate sections (i.e. [[Barack Obama]] has a separate personal life). As I worked on the article originally personal life was small, but as I found more and more sources the section became bigger and bigger and I cut it off into separate section. Maybe what would help is assessing which parts should go into the chronological "career" section and which should remain in the personal life section. |
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*2. "As another example, you write, "Michael Pollack is a drummer in "A Corporate Affair," a twelve piece R&B/rock/soul band." The source you cite does not support that statement." - |
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** It is supported by Lomax, John Nova. "[http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2007/12/back_in_the_high_life_michael.php Back in the High Life: Michael Pollack and the VCR Bikini Hottie]." ''[[Houston Press]]''. Friday December 7, 2007. : which says "Many of us were unaware that Pollack, who is alive and well in the Phoenix area, has a musical side -- he is the drummer in a 12-piece soul / rock / R&B cover band called A Corporate Affair. " as the last sentence |
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*3. "In addition, why are you telling the reader what to think (e.g., that Michael Pollack is politically conservative)? " |
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** ''That's not what I think''. The basis of that sentence is the sentence ""One issue I hear about from business executives in other states is, 'Michael, you are dealing with the wild West," said Pollack, <u>a staunch political conservative</u> who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon." from the source: Thomason, Art. "[http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2011/01/19/20110119arizona-image-southeast-valley-leaders-michael-pollack0119.html Arizona's image hurts business climate, leaders say]." ''[[The Arizona Republic]]''. January 19, 2011. Retrieved on November 22, 2012. - I chose to say "he is politically conservative" because he is proclaimed as such, he doesn't dispute it, and nobody else disputes it either (like how a person is called African-American in the press, and doesn't dispute it, so he's called African-American, but if the subject disputes it, then it becomes an "opinion"). It is stated in the present tense. In any case, perhaps it can be fixed by a re-wording? |
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[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 12:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC) |
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Rokform AfD discussion
Hi Uzma. I offered a clarification at: Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Corporate_Minion/Rokform
The nature of my COI is that I want it kept, but I requested the discussion to verify if Wikipedia wants the article.
I won't go around bugging folks that vote delete or anything, but I'd hate to see a delete vote because you thought that was my request ;-)
Corporate 15:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Uzma. My read of astroturfing regulations is that someone is required to disclose their affiliation in any online forum in which they participate to the extent that it is made obvious to readers. So naturally, I would disclose my COI in almost any post I make, unless it is already well-known by likely participants. I could see how this seems excessive compared to what we normally get.
- I only paraphrased both views, but am not lobbying aggressively for one outcome or another (or at least not trying to). Since two editors disagreed, I kindly requested a consensus decision is all.
- Hope this helps. If you have any Qs, my Talk page is always open. This article is fairly inconsequential, just hoping we could start off on a better foot. Corporate 13:53, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Senator Hotel
On 3 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Senator Hotel, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Manson family disciple Squeaky Fromme attempted to kill U.S. President Gerald Ford in Sacramento, California, near his suite at the historic Senator Hotel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Senator Hotel. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Updating Nadia Ali's Wikipage
Hi Uzma, I have received the proper licensing and picture to upload to Nadia's profile. However, when I try to upload the photo to wikimedia commons I consistently get this error:
Fantasy Cover Image1 of Nadia Ali.jpg There was another file already on the site with the same content, but it was deleted.
What can I do to get around this?
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by TWolosin (talk • contribs) 20:00, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Scrolling lists
Just in case you aren't watching my page, I thought I would respond here.
Thanks for the way to do a scrolling list without using CSS, that's very intriguing. I'm going to run this by the MOS mavens, to see what they think. May not affect you, as you plan it for Commons, but I might want to use it, if it isn't disallowed.
I see that you added the header rows above the table,s but as you realized, the spacing if off, so it doesn't line up well. I'm assuming the default is such that the top of the table will always show when you load, so the only way to lose the row would be to physically scroll down, and if you can do that you can undo that. It would be nice if there was a way to freeze the top rows, but I see it as an improvement even if that's not possible.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
- I made a change to Help:Scrolling list, feel free to revert if you don't like it.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:19, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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AmericasMart
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Michael Pollack
"The draft[1] obviously was written with a number of subsections to POV promote philanthropy, views, and other aspects of Mr. Pollack that would not otherwise make it into the article or whose importance would be significantly diminished by being put into perspective were the article written to convey Pollack's life chronologically. "
Please re-visit the discussion. There is no "POV promotion" going on anywhere - the reliable sources (newspaper articles from the Arizona Republic and Phoenix Business Journal) call him a philanthropist and describe his activities in detail. They discuss his childhood, they discuss his politics, and they discuss those seemingly unimportant aspects. Those sections are important because the reliable sources *say* they are important by discussing them. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for taking a look. Here are my thoughts.
- 1. The reason why I presented his career chronologically but separated other aspects is because I remembered seeing other biography articles separate "personal life" into separate sections (i.e. Barack Obama has a separate personal life). As I worked on the article originally personal life was small, but as I found more and more sources the section became bigger and bigger and I cut it off into separate section. Maybe what would help is assessing which parts should go into the chronological "career" section and which should remain in the personal life section.
- 2. "As another example, you write, "Michael Pollack is a drummer in "A Corporate Affair," a twelve piece R&B/rock/soul band." The source you cite does not support that statement." -
- It is supported by Lomax, John Nova. "Back in the High Life: Michael Pollack and the VCR Bikini Hottie." Houston Press. Friday December 7, 2007. : which says "Many of us were unaware that Pollack, who is alive and well in the Phoenix area, has a musical side -- he is the drummer in a 12-piece soul / rock / R&B cover band called A Corporate Affair. " as the last sentence
- 3. "In addition, why are you telling the reader what to think (e.g., that Michael Pollack is politically conservative)? "
- That's not what I think. The basis of that sentence is the sentence ""One issue I hear about from business executives in other states is, 'Michael, you are dealing with the wild West," said Pollack, a staunch political conservative who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon." from the source: Thomason, Art. "Arizona's image hurts business climate, leaders say." The Arizona Republic. January 19, 2011. Retrieved on November 22, 2012. - I chose to say "he is politically conservative" because he is proclaimed as such, he doesn't dispute it, and nobody else disputes it either (like how a person is called African-American in the press, and doesn't dispute it, so he's called African-American, but if the subject disputes it, then it becomes an "opinion"). It is stated in the present tense. In any case, perhaps it can be fixed by a re-wording?
WhisperToMe (talk) 12:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)