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Thanks! Beshogur (talk) 00:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 18 September

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You're right, my bad. Beshogur (talk) 00:13, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

March 2016

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Iraqi Kurdistan. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kirkuk Governorate. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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File:Noman Çelebicihan Batallion.jpg listed for discussion

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Unexplained revert

Could you please explain this revert here [1]? A Turkish source gave an updated claim on Turkish losses, and a Kurdish source gave an updated claim on Kurdish and Turkish losses. So, I updated both the previous Turkish claim on their own losses, and the previous Kurdish claim on both sides losses that was already in the infobox. We have been presenting both sides POV on the matter of losses per Wikipedia's policy on neutrality. EkoGraf (talk) 03:37, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Changing "PKK members" to "Kurdish fighters" is not neutrality, and please check your sources. Beshogur (talk) 11:40, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I did check my sources, and if you did as well you would see the source was referring to dead YPS members as well, not just PKK. Even though the YPS was born out of the PKK as their youth wing, and considered part of the PKK by many (such as Turkey), they are still at least officially separate from the PKK and we have listed them as such in the beligerents section of the infobox. THAT is why I changed it from PKK members to Kurdish fighters, so it would include all Kurdish combatants. If that was your whole problem it wouldn't warrant a full revert of my whole edit. And I don't see how that change is not neutrality, and implying that I am non-neutral is a bit offensive and not per WP policy on assuming good faith from your fellow editors. EkoGraf (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dersim massacre/rebellion

The point is the article is called the Dersim massacre. You can't just change the content without a change in name. Go to Wikipedia:Requested moves and follow the procedure there. I've just done that very thing. You also reverted sourced content, you didn't just replace the word massacre with the word rebellion. I've got no opinion on this, but the editor I first reverted is a new editor with a number of problems. Doug Weller talk 19:06, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Caucasus

Do not move Armenia to partially or unrecognized, it doesnt make sense. Partially means only in part; to a limited extent. How is one country out of close to 200 partially? Ninetoyadome (talk) 04:43, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia is partially recognized, they're not recognized by Pakistan.

Pakistan was the first country along with Turkey to recognize Azerbaijan after its independence. Pakistan does not recognize Armenia and will never do so. We speak with one voice on NagornoKarabakh. On 14th March, 2008 we together passed the first Resolution 882 on Nagorno-Karabakh. Azerbaijan has supported us on Kashmir and we are thankful to you for that.

Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed

Beshogur (talk) 14:06, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are deliberately ignoring the definition of the word partial. Pakistan is the only country out of close to 200 that doesnt recognize Armenia. http://defence.pk/threads/pakistan-the-only-country-not-recognizing-armenia.298703/. If you change the page again i will report you for vandalism to the mods. Ninetoyadome (talk) 16:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You can do that.. Beshogur (talk) 18:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 2016

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map. Erlbaeko (talk) 14:13, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Those villages were before sourced. Beshogur (talk) 14:14, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You already said that, and I asked you where that source is. Ref. diff. Note that the burden is on you to demonstrate verifiability. Erlbaeko (talk) 14:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

By the way,

You may be blocked from my Talk page without further warning the next time if you bother me again. Beshogur (talk) 18:37, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2016

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Mosul, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 20:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Don't delete things about Muslims on the Mosul article. Beshogur (talk) 21:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Mosul. Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverted edit

Hello Beshogur,

why exactly did you revert me? Îlan/Yilanli was mentioned in the article I cited. But apart from that, I didn't change it, since it was only a claim by SDF. What I changed was the sign for Mankubah. This village north of Manbij isn't by far at the frontline anymore and there is no reason why the fighters of the SDF should have left it alone, especially if you regard the fact that it was already contested before.

Apart from that, thanks for your contributions on the map modules, they are definitely helpful.

Cheers, Ermanarich (talk) 23:37, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if I have an fault. Thanks anyway. Beshogur (talk) 23:43, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdish-Turkish conflict

This is a Turkish news agency (Anadolu Agency) and says 5,000 killed. This is an article in Turkish, distinguishing between killed, wounded and arrested, and says 5,000 killed (7,000 neutralized). I may be wrong, but that was also the stable version before your edit. If we are not understanding correctly, please explain on the talk page. Thanks, Nykterinos (talk) 21:08, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I can understand you, but Turkish agencies uses Neutralized instead killed. There are big mistakes. Beshogur (talk) 21:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So? Can I revert back to killed? Nykterinos (talk) 21:20, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do it. Beshogur (talk) 23:03, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian civil war map edit

Please check the talk page Talk:Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War, I've given my reasons for the change. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 17:15, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

August 2016

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Ref. [2] Erlbaeko (talk) 13:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mare' was captured by rebels in June, stop vandalizing.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]

There is a section on the talk page, here, where we are trying to work out that dispute. You can add your souces there. Further information: Achieving consensus through discussion. Erlbaeko (talk) 13:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tuz Khurmatu

According to your own source there is an agreement to withdraw all forces and hand over town to local police. So why should that be marked as red? If anything the town has always been administered by kurds and the mayor is kurdish. So if one color is chosen it should be yellow. Best option is to mark as joint unless you want to make a new color to explain "local police force". Mozad655 (talk) 16:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't Kurdish police in Iraq, so the local police is the police of the central gov't. Beshogur (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is kurdish police in all kurdish areas. Why do you assume its the local police of the central gov't and not the KRG? Mayor is kurdish and town has been under kurdish adminstration since 2003. If they are under central gov't there would be no point in an "agreement" from a peshmerga perspective, as it would constitute surrendering the town to the central gov't which is unheard of. The local police by logical intuition must be local, non-partisan and seperate from main iraqi-police which is really just a formality as Iraq is not organized and army/police/millitias are all the same. Millitias might aswell not have left then. Do you get my point? Mozad655 (talk) 23:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jarabulus is still contested according to SOHR

Hello you reverted my edit on the module of Syrian civil war. SOHR is frequently used as a source by news organisations as it gives unbiased info. Besides why do you think that something is true simply based on an official claim by a government. Undeniably SOHR can be considered more reliable and neutral than an official statement of a government. I hope you will understand this and will revert your edit. Thank you very much. Newsboy39 (talk) 20:04, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care about SOHR. Because I trust in the anouncment of the state. + There were dozens of videos about Jarablus city center. Get your facts. Beshogur (talk) 20:07, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's biased editing. If Syria annouced it captured Aleppo will you believe it? SOHR is one of the most reliable sources of the conflict. If you don't revert I'll have to revert you. Newsboy39 (talk) 20:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, sorry then, my fault. Beshogur (talk) 20:13, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mere videos of the city centre does not mean "the whole city" is under control. Areas in a city can still be under control of others. Seems you did not understand it properly. Besidea I see you have realised your mistake. Can you please self-revert now? Newsboy39 (talk) 20:15, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do. Beshogur (talk) 20:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Erlbaeko (talk) 17:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits on Jarabulus offensive (2016)

You've now added information that is not in source for 2 times. Your recent addition of Ismail Ahwaz as commander of FSA in Jarabulus offensive is not in source. The source you used doesn't even mention Jarabulus nor that Ismail Ahwaz is the commander of the offensive. In actual it's mentioning Ahwaz being the commander during the battle for al-Rai. I ask you to please revert your edit as it is effectively unsourced. Newsboy39 (talk) 17:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian Civil War

Merhabalar kardeşim büyük ihtimal Türksün biliyorum.Bu amk kekolarına göz açtırmayalım. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyline12399 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Be warned on edit-warring!

I've noticed in recent days you are engaged in an aggressive edit-warring and frequent reverting and in some cases distorting of sourced material. Consider this as a warning, as you may be in danger of being blocked (hopefully not). Roboskiye (talk) 17:56, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey you can't hide the Turkmen nationality in Syria. Don't be racist. The name of the village is in Turkmen language, so it has nothing to do with Kurds. Kurd means wolf, not Kurd. Beshogur (talk) 18:06, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Beshogur, do not call others racist especially without giving satisfactory evidence that clearly shows any sign of racism. Making false allegations against others and calling them racist can get you blocked. Newsboy39 (talk) 18:09, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.almasdarnews.com/article/rebels-advance-rapidly-amid-full-scale-isis-retreat-northern-aleppo-map-update/

[2] ttp://qasioun.net/en/news/show/28405/Opposition_break_the_siege_by_ISIS_on_Mare%E2%80%99a

[3] ttp://www.syriahr.com/2016/06/08/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%84-%D8%AA%D9%86%D9%81%D8%B0-%D9%87%D8%AC%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%8B-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%8B-%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A8-%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A9/

[4] ttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-northwest-idUSKCN0YU0PT

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	:Hey you can't hide the Turkmen nationality in Syria. Don't be racist. The name of the village is in Turkmen language, so it has nothing to do with Kurds. Kurd means wolf, not Kurd. [[User:Beshogur\|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur#top\|talk]]) 18:06, 25 August 2016 (UTC)		:Hey you can't hide the Turkmen nationality in Syria. Don't be racist. The name of the village is in Turkmen language, so it has nothing to do with Kurds. Kurd means wolf, not Kurd. [[User:Beshogur\|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur#top\|talk]]) 18:06, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

			::Beshogur, do not call others racist especially without giving satisfactory evidence that clearly shows any sign of racism. Making false allegations against others and calling them racist can get you blocked. [[User:Newsboy39\|Newsboy39]] ([[User talk:Newsboy39\|talk]]) 18:09, 25 August 2016 (UTC)