User talk:Chris Langan

Identity

Hi! Are you, Chris Langan, the same as the subject of the article Christopher Langan? - Scarpy (talk) 18:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, and that's correct. Thanks for your offer of attention. Chris Langan (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Chris Langan, you are invited to the Teahouse!

Hi Chris Langan! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. Be our guest at the Teahouse! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from experienced editors like Cullen328 (talk). Visit the Teahouse We hope to see you there! Delivered by HostBot on behalf of the Teahouse hosts 16:04, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you hostbot, but Chris is only 13 and he has some mental handicaps as a special needs 450 IQ suoer genius kid, I am his Nigerian nanny and guardian , I would like to receive this tea house award on his behalf !

Don’t leave Chris out of your prayers!

Thanks!

Nigerian chess player (talk) 17:11, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, as you did at Talk:Simulation hypothesis, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 15:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Roxy. I don't quite know what "personal attacks" you mean. Could you be more specific, being careful to name the exact individuals toward whom the "attacks" were directed? (I note that you seem to be ignoring venomous personal insults by "Nigerian chess player" and others by "Gary", who was recently banned for trolling but then inexplicably unbanned despite others having identified him as a troll.) As far as I can see, my remarks and mine alone have been completely relevant to the article.

You should be aware that when Wikipedia "cancel culture" specialized in my case back in 2006, I eventually straightened things out by communicating directly with Mr. Wales. With all due respect, Wikipedia is nobody's license to hound me, insult me, and defame me, let alone for 15 years. Please make a special effort to be fair, neutral, and evenhanded.

Thank you.

Hello again, Roxy. As I know how concerned you are with "personal attacks" and violations of WP:TPO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines,

I assume you've warned "Nigerian chess player" and "Gary" to stop their abuse on the Talk Page of the Wikipedia article on the Simulation Hypothesis. Remember, "Gary" is coming off a ban, and I haven't seen any justification for reinstating him.

I'm officially registering a complaint. I know you've been on that page, and that you are concerned with "personal attacks" on it because you have accused me of making such attacks for merely trying to improve the article exactly as prescribed by Wikipedia, namely, on the Talk Page with enumeration of proposed improvements. There is no question that I'm in total compliance with WP:COI, and I know that you are aware of this abuse and will want to issue appropriate warnings to the users I've mentioned.

As you warned me directly for an alleged violation, I assume that you are a legitimate channel for reporting such violations. If not, kindly direct me to the proper page. Thank you. Chris Langan (talk) 21:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Lol do you even read what you write?

“What personal attacks” roxy?

And then

“ they are trolls”

 Nigerian chess player (talk) 18:43, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Chris Langan. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Christopher Langan, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
• disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 15:58, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Independent sources

As I previously mentioned on the biography article's talk page, what matters for Wikipedia are independent sources. Wikipedia not being a research journal, cannot be used as such (WP:NOT) and primary sources are discouraged with exceptions. Wikipedia not being for self-promotion, instead of trying to debate the topic itself to cite your own material (which talk pages are not for either), you should present third party sources that refer to your work. Wikipedia as an encyclopedia does appeal to authority (WP:RS). Third party sources that discuss yours is what could convince editors that what you are proposing is WP:DUE. I've noticed that some editors that you claim to know may not themselves reflect the spirit of WP:TPG and they could eventually face sanctions for that. Assuming it was the case, this would nevertheless still not magically make your material legitimate at simulation hypothesis. The claims about that being Wikipedia's problem are typical and cannot change or avoid its core policies. We've all read complaints like Among the problems faced by Wikipedia is this: few knowledgeable and well-intentioned people have time for an "encyclopedia" glutted with rampaging trolls and Wikipedia warriors who, when they run out of real "pseudoscience" or "pseudomathematics" or "pseudophilosophy" about which to complain, will settle for pretty much anything. Again, for emphasis, an independent reputable source would help to show that your own material has received attention from relevant people and may possibly serve to argue that the edits you propose are acceptable. —PaleoNeonate – 12:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I hope you're not being disingenuous, PaleoNeonate. The bio article itself mentions several third-party sources for the CTMU. Some of them have made positive remarks; other, especially less informed and/or biased sources, have made negative remarks. Ben Goertzel, Chu-Carroll, Justin Ward, even Popular Science and Malcolm Gladwell have mentioned the CTMU. Many of these sources were ignored when my bio and the CTMU page were attacked by the "anti-pseudoscience" crowd here at Wikipedia circa 2006, inaugurating a 15-year-old circle-jerk in which my work was suppressed by what essentially amounted to mob action based on false pretenses, which has been used ever since as a reason to continue suppressing it and references to it in other articles. So you see, third-party sourcing can't really be the problem.

The CTMU is the only mathematically coherent theory of full-reality simulation. There's simply no one else who has even taken a credible shot at it. Yet the CTMU page was driven off this site nearly 15 years ago. But amazingly, Wikipedia has an article entitled "Time Cube", now accessible only via the Wayback Machine, ostensibly because Wikipedia warrior / "crank fighter" skeptics find it a useful example of "pseudoscience". I don't think that the CTMU, which was maliciously misidentified as "Intelligent Design Creationism" and for which I was endlessly and absurdly harassed and harangued here in the first decade of the millennium, needs to take a back seat to "Time Cube". The mere suggestion would be ridiculous. It's clear that there's a systemic problem here, and that asymmetric administration has much to do with it.

The comment you mention is perfectly generic and completely accurate, as I know from long experience with this site. If anyone's feelings were hurt by it, it is obviously because he or she chose to be hurt, and I therefore have no apologies for it. On the other hand, the many insults against me on Talk:Simulation Hypothesis are hurtful and inaccurate, as any intelligent person can easily see just by reading what's on the page. Under the circumstances, I think I should be spared any pretense that somehow, those responsible have not yet crossed the line. Of course they have, and insofar as I was warned for posting a perfectly accurate observation without attaching any particular name to it, they should have been sanctioned already. [We might as well cut to the chase - at least one of these people was recently blocked for trolling, they are trolling me now, they are clearly specializing in my case (look at their edit histories), they have announced their intention to use the page for "debating" me, and their trolling is right in your face. With all due respect, you couldn't possibly have missed it if you actually examined the page.]

Once again, I'm requesting that these people and their utterly nonconstructive insults, innuendos, and personalized invective be dealt with in a symmetrical manner. Thanks in advance for your help. Chris Langan (talk) 15:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

To confirm your identity...

...please go to WP:OTRS and contact the folks there. As I'm sure you understand, anyone could show up here and claim to be a notable person. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)