User talk:Emrgmgmtca

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Welcome and Hello

• I noticed you have written a very nice section on Paramedic, one of the articles I watch and have been trying to edit on a regular basis. Myself and a couple of other editors have created a EMS and emergency medicine related wiki project and would love input. Out 1st goal is to get Emergency medical services to Wikipedia:Good articles and then to FA class. Would love any help you can contribute as I lack the quality writing skills you have. thanks for your time Medicellis (talk) 14:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

EMS BarnStar

		The Medic Barnstar
		excellent work on Paramedic

• thanks for the time/effort put into the Paramedic page, great work!

Your comments

Hi there,

I've replied to your comments on my talk page (and moved the comment to the bottom) OwainDavies ^(about)_(talk) edited at 14:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Hi there ;). Are you aware that Wikipedia has a Manual of Style that must be followed? Unfortunatly, though your recent work to the EMS articles is commendable, the formatting and manual of style is pretty poor. I've 'repaired' the main damage done (namely I've removed level 1 headings, decapitalised all but the first word of all headings, deleted empty headings, and formatted external links correctly), but could I please urge you to go and take a look at WP:MOS, and follow it in the future? Cheers ;). _TalkIslander 22:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, a quick note about this comment - please be aware that nobody owns any articles on Wikipedia, and I can confirm that OwainDavies is well aware of this. Looking at his comment, unfortunatly he's quite right. I can't stress enough that the work you've done to date is very commendable and valuable, but you must realise that on Wikipedia we have various policies and guidelines that should be followed, one (big) one of which is the manual of style. _TalkIslander 22:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Islander! I will familiarize myself with the Style Guide of course. There's so much in here that doesn't seem meet any kind of style standard that I decided to just go at it from an academic approach, in order to try to clean it up. As you have probably figured out, I'm new to Wikipedia (but not to writing or to the subjects that I write about), and just trying to work things through. I'd welcome any other advice that you might have...please feel free to look at what I post from time to time, and offer suggestions! With respect to the other situation, I suppose that I was just a little frustrated at having two hours' worth of work undone three minutes after it was posted, without any sort of discussion. The only discussion occurred after I objected. I guess that's how it works here. Cheers. Emrgmgmtca (talk) 10:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunatly yes, that often is how it works here. Bear in mind that 9 in every 10 edits made here is unfortunatly not constructive, and needs to be reverted. Because of this, the general method of dealing with a questionable edit is to revert and then check carefully to see whether it was made in good faith or not. This is far from the ideal method, but is unfortunatly what is done more often than not. The response you got from OwainDavies actually ties in quite well with the first point you make above - you're quite right in pointing out that many articles don't follow our MoS carefully, hence editors try hard to rectify this, which can result in good-faith work such as your own being undone quickly. It's unfortunate, but there's not really any way around it. _TalkIslander 10:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

WPMED banner

{{WPMED}} is a talk page banner, and thus should be placed on the talk page instead of the article page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Citing Wikipedia

Wikipedias, and wikis in general, are not usually considered reliable sources because they can be changed so easily by anyone. It's probably better than nothing, but it would be better to find a proper reliable source. Perhaps a government website? (If the French wikipedia had cited its sources, then you could use that instead, but they don't seem to have done that yet.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

As it happens, I do most of the assessments for WPMED; congratulations on your latest promotion.

BTW, you don't have to add the {{not done}} template; the people that watch that page will figure it out. That template is largely used to signal that something has been languishing on the list for lack of a suitable expert. (Nothing wrong with adding it, but it's not necessary if you want to save yourself a little extra time and typing.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

thanks

you have been doing a tremendous amount of work I would like to thank and congratulate you!!! keep up the good work. I have been away for a while due to studying for school as I have very big and expensive test next week. I hope to be on after the test more and look over the pages you have done and re-worked.....again good job! Medicellis (talk) 23:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes on Emergency medical services by country articles

Nice work on all of the EMS by country articles. I'd like to discuss the use of infoboxes on the articles, so I'd appriciate if you would comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Emergency medicine and EMS task force#Infoboxes on Emergency medical services by country articles. Thanks. --Scott Alter 16:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Done!

Thanks

Thanks for your kind note today. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

I just wanted to make sure you knew that you were authorized to fix obvious errors in WPMED assessments without consulting anyone. I just updated the EMS in the United States article from Stub to C (see the comments), and it clearly shouldn't have been rated stub! Here's a quick rule of thumb for the lower grades (and you know where to find the more detailed rules):

• Stub: Less than ten sentences. If you feel like it, an image or a good reference or other element can count as a "sentence" for this purpose.
• Start: Ten or more sentences, but still obviously incomplete -or- Not quite ten sentences, but there's really nothing else to say on the subject [happens to a lot of obscure anatomy articles].
• C: Ten or more sentences plus at least one section header (not counting things like "References" or "External links") and at least one reference.

Even if you've done all the work on an article, you should feel free to self-rate these levels, and to correct ratings at any other WPMED article you ever see. If we're really lucky, the ratings on any given article will be reviewed once every year or two, so any extra pair of eyes is welcome. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Request for Help - Reply

Hi there, Emrgmgmtca. I'd be happy to copyedit for you - especially since I am an EMT, this will be fun! I'll take a look at it now, and I should be able to finish a copyedit by, say, the end of the week-ish, assuming nothing in my non-wiki life goes haywire in the meantime. Just to double-check - the article is Emergency medical services in the United States? keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 13:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

That's the correct article, and thanks a million for your help! Also as an EMT, you might also be interested in having a read (but I won't ask you to copyedit) of the other ten articles (U.K. isn't done yet!) in the series, just out of interest. Thanks again. Cheers Emrgmgmtca (talk) 14:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've finished my copyedit. Before turning it loose to be evaluated again, you should probably give it a quick look over to make sure I a) didn't overlook anything duh-worthy (I just caught myself almost saving an edit that said something like "and its' friends") and b) didn't run any sentences into the ground when trying to clarify them. Better safe than sorry, you know? keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 13:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

copy/edit of Emergency Medical Dispatcher

Hey I was wondering if you had some free time if you could copy/edit my EMD page that I created. It was deleted under WP:PROD but I contested it and it was re-instated. I included alot of references in the article but for some reasons, someone thought it did not have enough content. Emergency Medical Disptaching has become a large part of the US EMS system and is used in most Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) system that dispatch both FIRE/EMS/POLICE. You have done a wonderful job of expanded on alot of articles I have copy/edited so I was hoping to request you help here! thanks in advance Medicellis (talk) 23:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll have a look at it. It's an important subject! We use it here too, so I actually have local expertise that I can consult. Our dispatch centre were just named a Centre of Excellence not long ago. Hope the work on the exam is going well for you! Good luck! Emrgmgmtca (talk) 09:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Bravo -- the article was deleted originally because all of the references failed WP:RS, and the article itself seemed to center around the EMD "certification" from one company. I'm glad to see someone was able to resuscitate it. (Charging... clear!) //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 15:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! That was my first rescue in here! Medicellis...I'm done with it, and pretty pleased myself. I've re-evaluated it as a 'C' but asked for an additional reevaluation...I think it meets the 'B' standard now, but I'm reluctant to evaluate my own work that highly. Hope youre pleased with this...let me know what you think! Emrgmgmtca (talk) 15:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: IP Vandalism

Thanks for the contact. When IP vandalism occurs, we try to give sufficient feedback before temporarily blocking. When we do block an IP, it is temporary and a block of anonymous blockers only. Thus you, as a signed in editor are safe and welcome to edit even though a block on the IP has been put in place. I hope this clarifies things. Happy editing, Kukini ^{háblame aquí} 12:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Emergency Medical Dispatcher

You're welcome; it's nice of you to respond. It's an interesting and important topic, but I think the article is still too repetitive and wordy in places; paring down wouldn't hurt. And it is very US-centric. (I know, I know: the article I'm presently working on is like that, too.)

FYI: Norway (not an EU country) some years back discussed emergency numbers. 9-1-1 was considered, as everyone who watches American movies knows that one. For some reason the result was: Fire: 1-1-0, Police: 1-1-2 and Ambulance: 1-1-3. Of course, in an emergency, no one can remember all that. Most people just remember that 1-1-1 is not one of them and try ± 1. I called 1-1-3 once and got all flustered when the guy answered "Emergency Helicopter". He had to talk me into not hanging up. (Neighbor with broken hip didn't need a helicopter.) It's important work, and they sure have to keep their wits about them.

BTW, since it's so US-centric, why do you use the spelling 'centre'? --Hordaland (talk) 17:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

It isn't really as US-centric as has been suggested...at least, not deliberately. The certification of Emergency Medical Dispatcher is purely a U.S. invention...it developed and grew there, all of the standards were created, and are still controlled from there, by Jeff Clawson and the folks who brought you AMPDS. It is VERY MUCH an American 'thing', which has been successfully exported elsewhere, including an impressive list of countries at this point. In the history portion, I know the evolution of medical dispatching and emergency numbers in the U.S. and Canada, and am sincerely hoping that if there are significant differences elsewhere, other Wikipedians will jump in and add them. I've already included the process in France, because I happened to know that, and photos from Finland, Germany and South Africa, primarily because I was trying to minimize the US-centric 'feel' of the article. It's something that I am extremely conscious of! BTW the reason that I use 'centre' is that I am Canadian, and also went to grad school in the U.K.. And trust me, if you think this is US-centric, try living next door to them!!! I get 500 television channels, 350 of which are American! Waving our flag has become a national obsession here!!! Thanks again! Emrgmgmtca (talk) 17:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Good Samaritan law GA

FYI, I took the excellent work you did and got the article to GA status. I did have to redo a lot of your formatting and do some copyediting, but the bulk of the work was done by you and other previous editors. Your attention to the article prompted me to make the nomination and final changes, and you should be considered a significant contributor to this article's GA achievement. Jclemens (talk) 18:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

9-1-1

copied from my talk, in case you're not watching that...

Ok, after a quick read, it looks like I should be able to get 9-1-1 copyedited...maybe within two weeks? I'd say a week, but real life's a little quirky lately. I'll get started probably tonight or tomorrow. And hey, thanks for asking me - I always like to see a repeat customer ;) keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 21:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Observation

I've been thinking about WP:EMS recently. I'm halfway tempted to redirect WT:EMS to UT:Medicellis, because that's the page where I can actually find out what's going on with EMS-related articles. I very much do not want to disrupt your relationship with any editor, but I know you're interested in having a functional EMS task force, so here's an unsolicited suggestion:

If you're posting something that might have general interest, you might consider putting it on the EMS task force's talk page instead of, or in addition to, an individual editor's talk page. Communication between members about what they've been doing and what needs to be done is why the task force has a talk page. This sort of "I exist, and I'm working on something" message can be really critical to small projects, because it reminds people about the task force's existence and also makes it possible for more than two editors to work together.

Free advice is often worth exactly what you paid for it, so feel free to ignore this if you want. Cheers, WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Flag of Ceuta

No, that was over a year ago. You are affected by this deletion: [1]. Conscious (talk) 14:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Sorry for the inactivity, Im about finished with RN school and I accepted a Management position at the ambulance company I work for as training and education officer, and assistant Director of Operations. So needless to say I haven't had much time to breath let alone, have fun on wiki.....my wife has been hounding me just to spend time with the little ones. I take my last RN class on the 8th and will finally be ready to take my nursing boards. I hope to take the nursing boards in Jan. After that I will have more time, mabe....I have to decide were my career is going. I neeed to choose my field I guess. EMS unfortunatly has no pay comparied with the nursing field, but I need the management experience. I accepted a full-ride scholorship from the hospital I work part-time and now "owe" them 2 years of work or pay them back 8k for titution they paid for. So again I apologize for my lack of activity.....soon I hope to have more time Medicellis (talk) 20:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)