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Hi Quadell, I'm glad that you like the new template I created. Following through on your suggestions, I have changed the parameter "screenshot" to "image", and have added an extra paraemter: "other" which will appear as "other information:" and which will allow you to add any extra notes you may wish to add. I will work on your other suggestions in the near future, but I am currently on a holiday and have only a limited time using an internet connection. I should tell you now however, that because of the change in parameter from screenshot to image, none of the images here are now not appearing, but I have gone ahead and fixed that up for you, if thats okay with you. Thanks for your suggestions, and I hope to make further improvemnts (and perhaps more, specific infoboxes, or sub-infoboxes) soon! -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey. I just made another update. There is yet another parameter: "Excl. comp.", which brings "Exclusion compliant?". If = yes, then the bot is added to the category you specified, if no, then it is not added to the category. Thanks, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Commons images

What should I do when I see no-source images on the Commons? (Like this one.). Videmus Omnia 16:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, some Wikipedians just ignore problems on Commons, thinking of it as an unrelated and separate project. Do you have an account on Commons? I do (I'm an admin there), so I tagged the image {{subst:nsd}} and notified the uploader. Unfortunately, it often takes months for images to get deleted on Commons. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 16:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll look into a Commons account - thanks! Videmus Omnia 16:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Another question about deleted images

Dear "Quadell" recently some of the images I have uploaded have been deleted, while others have not. I am confused as to the rationale why some are deleted and others not... I do not want to engage in an upload/delete "war". I would very much appreciate if you could explain this situation. I can add that I have been creating or updating entries for underground metal bands, such as Judas Iscariot (band), N.I.L., Nortt, and Striborg, as well as entries on members of such bands, e.g., Andrew Harris (musician) and N. Imperial. I believe that images add value to the entries that shows what these bands look like. I am using lo-res pictures that are often found on CD inlay, and are thus promotional photos. I cannot imagine that is hurts these bands to have their picture on wikipedia. Many of these acts rarely appear in public, if at all, and I have not been able to find replaceable free photos. Your help would be appreciated.
Branko 20:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Greetings. I know, it can be very difficult to find free images of bands. Unfortunately our non-free content policy does not allow us to accept non-free images of active bands, even if they are legal to use under fair use law. It's that first criterion, that requires a non-free image to be non-replaceable, that's the problem. Even if the bands are not very well known, if they are still together then it should be possible for someone to photograph them and release that photo under a free license. Because that's possible, we can't use a non-free image in its place. User:Videmus Omnia, above has had good luck writing to the artists asking for free (GFDL) images. If you'd like to try that strategy, Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission has a lot of tips and templates.

As to why some of your images have been deleted and not others, it could be that some just haven't been deleted yet. Or, if the band has broken up, the image may no longer be considered replaceable, so that could be a reason. All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 23:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. IT still does not make sense to me. If an image is widely available on the internet, and the artist(s) himself/themselves make it available for promotional purposes, how can it hurt a band to put that image up on wikipedia? Or, let me put it differently, how come http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mardukpic.jpg has been up for several weeks with no problem? At any rate, I did contact N.Imperial and he has given me permission to use his photos! Branko 02:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't hurt the band. Our non-free content policy isn't just there to make sure we're not hurting the copyright-holders (although that's part of it). It's also to encourage free content. If we could have used a non-free image of Mary Elizabeth Winstead, it wouldn't have hurt the actress -- but then no one would have bothered to create a free image of her, like this one. The rule about not using replaceable non-free images came straight from the top -- Jimbo Wales, founder of Wikipedia. It isn't likely to change. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)}

No doubt you are more familiar with the rules and regulations of Wikipedia. Still, either one of us must be confused. I have seen other photos of living people that are not tagged for deletion or disputed, e.g., this one of Marduk (band), or this one of MADtv (which has no fair Use Rationale, yet has been up since December 2006). Let me repeat that the individuals of whom I have uploaded images belong to the black metal underground music scene, and rarely, if at all, appear in public. – Branko 17:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Both those examples you mentioned are not allowed on Wikipedia. I have tagged them as such. They must have just fallen through the cracks. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 20:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Image deletion - jcb-abcnews

You deleted the image under the "invalid fair use" claim... as I read the policy I was supposed to be given 48 hours notice, but got none, so I don't know exactly why they said the fair use claim was invalid... what's the issue and how can I remediate? -- Archibald16 00:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

We cannot use portraits of living people on Wikipedia, due to the first criterion listed at WP:NFCC. See User talk:Quadell/image deletion for details. According to the logs, the Wikipedia software automatically tagged the image as "replaceable" when you uploaded it, and stated that the image would be deleted if no reason was given why the image was not replaceable. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 01:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Your edit count

I just looked at your edit count, and it was exactly 45,000. I thought that was pretty crazy. — thesublime514 • talk • 04:13, July 8, 2007 (UTC)

Oops, now with this edit it's too high. :-) – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 04:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Awwww, you ruined it :-( — thesublime514 • talk • 04:18, July 8, 2007 (UTC)

Help with Bot

Hi i was wondering how to run a bot i have got the instuctions but i dont understand them.I got the user name for it and i got all this stuff but i still dont inderstand if you can help i would REALLY appreciate it!(Sparrowman980 05:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC))

Hm. What kind of bot are you hoping to run? What would you like it to do? Have you ever written a computer program before? You might want to try using Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 05:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

k thanks i will try it.(Sparrowman980 05:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC))

Problem uploader...

Hi, Quadell. Did you had the time to deal with the uploader I mentioned here? He's still uploading problematic images. I'm asking that because I've run into a second issue I would like your help with... --Abu badali ^(talk) 14:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I left her a warning. I just left her another message. I'm not comfortable blocking her unless it's clear that she's intentionally violating policy. (It's getting closer.) Who else ya got? – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 14:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your tool

I don't have an image tagging tool. I think you meant to thank User:Howcheng. MECU≈talk 20:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Oops! Oh well. Sorry to bother you. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 20:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Check this out

Removing PUI notices and reports at WP:PUI. Videmus Omnia 20:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Boring politicians

I was randomly looking at what else Polbot does, and noticed that it nicks public domain text/data and repackages it as Wikipedia articles. For US politicians and endangered species so far, by the looks of it. Recycling the content of other websites wasn't really why I got involved in Wikipedia (writing from sources is much more rewarding), but the incomplete and "notes" state of one of the articles annoyed me, so I did this. The history of Danville was vaguely interesting. Do you think Polbot would approve? :-) Carcharoth 22:35, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I should tell Polbot about it. She'll get jealous. :-) – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 23:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like she heard anyway, and threw a hissy fit. See below. Carcharoth 10:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Polbot malfunctioning

See John B. Macy. --Stemonitis 05:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I fixed it. For what happened, please see this old version. It seemed to leave HTML text in there from the original source. Carcharoth 10:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, this is a particularly annoying bug. In maybe 1 out of every 500 bios she makes, they end up looking like gobbledy-gook. I don't know why. If you see any more like that (and don't feel like fixing them yourself), just leave them at the bottom of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/American_politicians/Representatives, with the others she can't handle. Thanks! – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 10:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Why are these obscure US politicians so interesting! :-) I've managed to link to several of the things and places he was involved with, though sadly we don't have an article on the steamer tragedy where he lost his life. Have a look at the story here. Maybe we have an article on the "palace steamers", but I haven't been able to find anything yet. Carcharoth 11:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Polbot and US Congresses

I don't know how far you are along the run, but would you be able to tweak Polbot to link to the US Congresses? The two I've tidied up didn't link, and the naming convention is easy enough. See List of United States Congresses. Maybe you could even get the clever bot to go back and relink them in the ones she's already done? Carcharoth 11:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)