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Ancient Greece

Yia sou, Tsourkpk. I've seen your comment on Talk:Ancient Greece and I agree (as you can see from my comment right above yours). The topic is too important to be left in this state. I didn't know what you say about schoolkids being encouraged to edit, but the daily experience of watching this article strongly suggests you are right. Alas, I am not a professional classicist, are you? Also, I think that the article is a task that might require some time, some discussion, and a team of authors who are willing and able to contribute. They'd have to agree on a series of sections, prepare them on their own sandboxes (with references), and then overhaul the article in one go, and watch it ever after... Should it be, in your opinion, a long essay on Ancient Greek civilisation as a whole, or perhaps a series of shorter introductions, linking to the more detailed wikipedia articles on the relevant topics? Is there anyone else out there who feels this needs attention? athinaios (talk) 00:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Pelasgians

Just so you know Tsourkpk, Dbachmann has reviewed the paragraph supporting the Albanian-Pelasgian connection and has decided to remove the majority of its content (except for one sentence that is actually relevant to the Pelasgians article). Anyway, if you want to contribute to the discussion, then by all means participate. I would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks. Deucalionite (talk) 17:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Pelasgians (again)

Just so you know Tsourkpk, I tried to convince Dbachmann to fix the "paragraph" supporting the so-called Albanian-Pelasgian connection. Unfortunately, I did not get a response from him. I think that you (or even Megistias) should do the honors of following through with Dbachmann's critical review. This issue has to come to a close. I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanks. Deucalionite (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

Hello and sorry to annoy you.Your frontpage says you are interested in maps.I uploaded this after hard work with many books Ancient Epirusbut i cant understand how to place it in Epirus and Epirus-related subjects like personalities and the such.Could you help?Also check the talk page it has for explanation in several questions regarding specific tribes. Megistias (talk) 20:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC) illyrian tribesHello what do you think of this one? Ok i found out how.Megistias 14:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

mapsCan you check these out and tell me what you think? I ll be improving on the Illyrian and Thracin even more as soon as possible.Megistias (talk) 23:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC) No such thing as EPIROTIC?? http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/texte/etcs/alban/blanchus/blanc.htm You're obviously a Greek Propagandist on a payroll.

EPIROTIC

No such thing as EPIROTIC??

http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/texte/etcs/alban/blanchus/blanc.htm

You're obviously a Greek Propagandist on a payroll. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epirjoti (talk • contribs) 09:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

This is a misnaming of the albanian language based in geography and historical anachronism.Albanians appear at 1000 Ad.Megistias (talk) 12:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Saranda

Hi! You reverted my amends saying they were "unexplained mass deletions". They were not. I was merely rearranging the information into topic headings, subed into native English and add a link to Ksamil. You may care to restore my amends. No offence intended, but a brief read would have made this clear. I certainly don't wish to start a content fight; my intention was to improve the content. Folks at 137 (talk) 23:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

White space

There are 2 ways that I know of to minimise white space. Normally, the table of contents (toc) will generate space, as it did in the Saranda article, but if one uses {{tocleft}} or {{tocright}} it forces the toc to the left or right and text can fill the space. Use of boxes can also generate white space and one can reduce it by use of {{clear}}. Not sure how it's used, try some experiments, there's an example at D class cruiser which might help. Good luck, mate. Folks at 137 (talk) 08:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks much! --Tsourkpk (talk) 17:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

This has gone too far

Taulant lies once moreCome here dude.Megistias (talk) 00:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Take a look pls

Can you please take a look at the edits by User:WikiBakel here? He is adding info from ultra-nationalistic site (illyrians.org) and I have already reverted him three times... Helladios (talk) 22:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I have already reported him on WP:ANI. He clearly is not interested in constructive editing. --Tsourkpk (talk) 22:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Unfortunately some people will never learn. Helladios (talk) 22:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The truth will come out one day. For me Wikipedia has become nothing more than your propaganda. You can't give any valid arguments if something is wrong in the quoted tekst from illyrians.org. You are a sad example of someone that can't win an argument with facts. You accuse the site illyrians.org of being ultra-nationalistic. The same can be said of all the contributrions you made to wikipedia. I demand arbitrage by non-greek people. Probably you are to affraid for that and you will delete this again WikiBakel (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

If I were to erase the insulting comment you wrote above, I would actually be doing you a favor, since insulting me in the manner you did only makes YOU look bad. Now, you can "sanitize" your own talk page all you want [[1]], [[2]], [[3]], [[4]], but know that every insult, every derogatory comment, every slur and every rant you post on MY page will be available for everyone to see for all eternity. As for your site illyrians.org, it is indeed nothing more than a fringe-lunatic crackpot nationalist website, so please familarize yourself with WP:RS and stop wasting everyone's time. --Tsourkpk (talk) 21:31, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Slavic toponyms for Greek places

Thank for your time to participate. It seems that not to many want to participate!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Slavic_toponyms_for_Greek_places#Slavic_toponyms_for_Greek_places Seleukosa (talk) 15:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Tsourkpk! The article had alot and serius problems! I am glad I could help Seleukosa (talk) 23:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

As it seems the article reapeared!!!!!! Have a look and participate if you like!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Slavic_toponyms_for_Greek_places Seleukosa (talk) 11:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Turkish names for Greek places

Like you, I am unenthused about having Turkish names in the lead sentence for most Greek places. However, I am not so sure about omiting them in the "history" section. It was part of their history to be called something else. I hope this can be recognized. Student7 (talk) 01:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I suppose including the Ottoman Turkish name for some places in the history section is fine with me. However, I still think that should be the case only in places where the Ottoman presence was significant and left a more lasting mark on the place (e.g. for Thrace, but not for the Cyclades for example).

Clearly your knowledge of Greek history well exceeds my own. I defer to your good judgement! Student7 (talk) 02:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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i got revert limits and the Chaonian article is ruined...Megistias (talk) 18:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I saw that. I'll see what I can do. --Tsourkpk (talk) 19:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

He misinterprets sources that are primary and my myriad secondary sources are ignored. And i get punished! The article is awful now. He just insists the page is full of sources from me that show they were greek with no doubt.Megistias (talk) 19:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm getting involved with this specifically because I have no particular interest in the outcome. I'm not punishing Megistias (unless he does something to deserve it). I've been careful to distinguish primary from secondary sources. And the article is not ruined. DS (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, Megistias is referring to the fact that he got slapped with WP:ARBMAC and that the user who provoked this edit-war got away scott-free, not something you did. I also tend to think that this is somewhat unfair. Concerning sources, it is my understanding that the ancient, primary sources break down as follows: Plutarch explicitly states the Chaonians were Greek, Thucydides mentions them as "barbarians" (which may or may not mean they were Greek), Pseudo-Scylax simply omits them, while Hecateus of Miletus mentions them as Greek. Just like the secondary sources, no primary sources explicitly says they were non-Greek. And if they were Illyrian or Thracian (the only two non-Greek possibilities), there would exist a source that would mention that. To my knowledge, such a source, primary or secondary, does not exist. Rather, as Megistias points out, it seems there is overwhelming evidence that they were Greek. Therefore, the summary to your recent edit is perplexing. As far as I can tell, there is no disagreement among ancient sources either. --Tsourkpk (talk) 20:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Slavic toponyms for Greek places 2

Where is it up for voting? Because it's not here, since this is archived and it can't be modified. You can change your user name easy in WP:CHU. Just wait till a bureaucrat do it for you. The Cat and the Owl (talk) 08:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Slavic toponymes of Greek place names3

Additional help and advise needed in this article. It seems that it is becaming more and more extreme. Please advise and participate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_toponyms_for_Greek_places Seleukosa (talk) 10:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Check the talk page of the article. I agree that it should be deleted or at list renamed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seleukosa (talk • contribs) 17:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Who?

Who do you thinkg this is?Truthseeker1228Megistias (talk) 13:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

There's not enough enough evidence yet to be sure it's him. Let me deal with it, no worries. --Tsourkpk (talk) 18:49, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

More removals,cleary a plan.

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Megistias (talk) 23:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

• [9]Megistias (talk) 09:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

HE removed material

material removed,its our friendMegistias (talk) 14:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Please contribute here

Please contribute here Prehistoric BalkansMegistias (talk) 22:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Slavic toponymes out of control

What can we do with this article? Should we put it again up for deletion? Should we only rename it? User Carlosouares is writing an article for every part of Greece based on the biased book of Simovski. I don’t think that he has realized the mistake he is doing. He thinks that he is fighting nationalists!! Seleukosa (talk) 10:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Todor Hristov Simovski is a 100 % questionable source.All and any material ,references and articles based on him must be removed.He is POV and his books are unverifiable."Aegean Macedonia"? The book is nationalistic [10] to say the least and nothing more the Irredentism.How did this get through in wiki.Everything must be removed and appropriate measures be taken.Megistias (talk) 10:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

His book is irredendist.summary of the book.Immediate purge is needed.Megistias (talk) 11:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The material has been scanned by someone heresimovski,obviously some irredendist from fyrom.See Simovski's bio and material from the Book.Clearly material that is trash.Even if this gets closed i have saved the related material.The articles should be deleted and any and all refs with this "simovski".Megistias (talk) 11:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)