User talk:Werieth

Simple Question Regarding the Non-Free Pictures

Since Wikipedia is a namespace, Templates is a namespace, WikiPortal is a namespace, WikiProject is a namespace, Category is a Namespace, Talk is a namespace, userpage is a namespace and I believe you get the idea where I am going with this right? Since all of these ARE NAMESPACES I request that all pictures should be removed according to Wikipedia rules. I am strictly stripping the rule to its bare essentials and anything other than the article name is not allowed to have pictures. If you have a problem, not problem but you seriously need to rethink the rules. This is NOT a threat but stating an obvious statement. Sundogs ^{talk page sandbox} 19:13, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Only non-free images are disallowed outside of the main article space. Freely-licensed images can be used anywhere. There is a distinction there. Writ Keeper (t + c) 19:22, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

There is one key difference you should be aware of, free media and non-free media. Images from Commons and similarly licensed images hosted here on wikipedia can be used in any way that you choose. Non-free media however is copyrighted and its use is restricted by fair use, copyright law, and our non-free media policy Werieth (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

So, basically your saying that picture are copyrighted. Then I suggest, as honest and non threatening, take down all pictures due to copyright issues. Sundogs ^{talk page sandbox} 19:33, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Not all pictures are subject to copyright, File:Puerto Pirámides y Golfo Nuevo.jpg is in the public domain and is not subject to copyright. However File:Homer Simpson 2006.png is copyrighted by Fox. Werieth (talk) 20:02, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of pictures

Hello, I am JoshBlitz, creator of History of The Beatles, and, first of all, what did you think of my article? Also, you deleted photos that were previously used on wikipedia. May I ask why? The photos were on the other Quarrymen page, and some were on wikimedia commons, so why did you remove them?! JoshBlitz (talk) 22:41, 3 April 2013 (UTC)JoshBlitz

I only removed the non-free files, per our policy they can only be used in the article space. As for the article, I have not read it, but it is about 300Kb which puts it about 7 times larger than optimal. Werieth (talk) 22:53, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

But I got those pictures from Wikimedia Commons! The plaque one is from Wikimedia Commons. It says on the bottom that I am free to share and copy the picture. It is a Free File! JoshBlitz (talk) 15:13, 7 April 2013 (UTC)JoshBlitz

(talk page stalker) Josh, Werieth deleted HUNDREDS of pictures using AWB the other day. I suggest if you think that yours were deleted accidentally or without justification, then you should redlink the pictures here for Werieth to review your claim. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 15:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Please note that I not an administrator and cannot delete any content. I did prevent a large number of non-free files from being displayed in non-articles. Werieth (talk) 15:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I removed (did not delete from wikipedia) 5 files:

1. File:Quarrymen In Rosebery Street.jpg

   Tagged with {{Non-free fair use in}} not from commons

2. File:The Quarrymen St Peters fete.jpg

   Tagged with {{Non-free fair use in}} not from commons

3. File:Percy Phillips record.jpg

   Tagged with {{Non-free album cover}} not from commons

4. File:Julia in hat.jpg

   Tagged with {{Non-free fair use in}} not from commons

5. File:Sutcliffe in Hamburg.jpg

   Tagged with {{Non-free fair use in}} not from commons

The edit in question is here. Werieth (talk) 15:30, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Ahhh... It's an AfC article... Yeah... That reminds me that I had a question I wanted to ask you about that. Is it against policy (since it doesn't seem really clear to me) for articles in User: drafts or WP:AfC drafts to have the linking text for the files on the page and commented out using <!-- [[File:this file|blah|blah|blah]] --> or are the links required to be removed form the page, period? Technical 13 (talk) 15:43, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Linking is fine, however they cannot be displayed. Werieth (talk) 15:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Would you be willing to slightly modify your AWB script to link them on pages that are "under construction" as described above to link instead of delete? I had to undo a couple of your bot edits to my User: drafts the other day and add the comment wrappers. It just makes it easier and less frustrating on the people trying to create something new to be able to un-comment or remove the extra : later when it actually is submitted/moved to mainspace. If not, that is fine, I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. I use AWB on another wiki (awaiting approval here - put on hold because of a recent issue I had) so I'm not sure if that particular part to do that is coded into AWB or a simple ReGex search replace (which I am assuming it is). However, if my assumption is wrong, and it's part of AWB's automatic cleanup function, I would be willing to submit a suggestion/request to the AWB team to make the modification (and at WP:WikiProject Articles for Creation we could put a note someplace that tells people to link their images with the extra : in front and when we approve the submission automatically fix those to show images instead of link them. I feel like I'm rambling now so I'll just say thanks for your time considering this, and feel free to ask if you need clarification of what I just said because I'm not even entirely sure what I said. Technical 13 (talk) 16:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Ive found that removal is just about the only method that works reliable without breaking stuff. Having a : doesnt always work, and I am not a big fan of leaving a ton of HTML in my wake just to clutter the edit window. Werieth (talk) 16:16, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Figured I would ask. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 16:40, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Flag image

Thank you for catching this boo-boo. The other flags are on Commons, so I assumed that flag was, too. Good one! – PAINE ELLSWORTH ^CLIMAX! 17:52, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

No big deal, happens fairly often. Just glad your response was a lot nicer than the ones above. Werieth (talk) 17:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't envy you the task you've taken on. Try to have fun with it, or else the boobs will drive you batty. Kudes. – PAINE ELLSWORTH ^CLIMAX! 18:18, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I hope you don't think my above comment was mean or rude. Anyways, keep up the good work! Technical 13 (talk) 18:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

No, its just the ones that cannot remain civil and expect others to walk through hoops and do twice as much work as necessary. Werieth (talk) 18:37, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

PS in regards to your email, No real changes are needed in the template, however I did suggest an additional point on WP:NFC#UUI to clearly explain WP:NFCC#9 Werieth (talk) 18:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Take 5 and enjoy some coffee as I'm sure you have a LOT of files left to go! Technical 13 (talk) 18:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Actually I dont, Ive already cleaned the mess up :) Werieth (talk) 18:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for cleaning up the stupid default setting I get at my computer, and given the international address instead.

Arildnordby (talk) 21:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm back

I'm leaving this not for you, Masem, and Stefan2. I just returned from my vacation and was tidying up some things IRL. I understand that we have different views on Wikipedia:Non-free content review#State articles. No consensus has been reached. I am a little bothered that in the week I was gone, the discussion was closed ... without a consensus, but I'd like to move forward. I suggest we find a neutral place to arbitrate this because the discussion has now become circular. Please leave your thoughts in the State articles section. Thanks. --evrik ^(talk) 04:50, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit Help

Can you help me with this edit? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Museum_of_the_American_Revolution&oldid=549171280

I'm working on the description for the design and the accompanying photos. I've been picking up an idea of how it's done elsewhere in the other pages I've been working on, and reviewing the Wikipedia style info, etc. I cut the images that I downloaded down to a representative set for the description.

Commented on this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2013_April_6#File:Museum_of_the_American_Revolution_Location_1.jpg

I'm happy to consider the best way to display images for the design/construction section, but I don't think they should all go. If you can provide some help and advice, I'd appreciate it a lot! --JC1008 (talk) 18:50, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Please review our non-free content policy File:Museum of the American Revolution Day Rendering 1.jpg is the only file that might pass it. That file can be used either in the infobox, or the section but not both. The rest of the files will fail WP:NFCC#8. If you still have questions let me know. Werieth (talk) 19:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Removal of content from my sandbox

Hi Werieth. I see you removed some content from my sandbox and just to get a better understanding, I was wondering why? I read this but didn't see any info regarding the file's usage in a sandbox. Does the fact that it's in my sandbox not allow me some grace in terms of time to finish what i was working on? Cheers. Robvanvee 16:58, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately non-free content cannot be used outside of the mainspace. This includes user sandboxes, there is not a grace period, as WP:NFCC#9 isn't negotiable. If you need to use a file for layout purposes you can use File:example.jpg. Werieth (talk) 17:03, 8 April 2013 (UTC)