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Maria Rita Epik

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Delete: as non-notable singer. Quis separabit? 01:03, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

• No reasoning for deletion.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:54, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable singer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:18, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
• No reasoning for deletion.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:54, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
• Weak delete had she actually gone on to perform at Eurovision then WP:NMG would have been met. However, as Turkey withdrew from the contest then I am swaying more Redirect to Turkey in the Eurovision Song Contest rather than deletion. Wes Mouse ^Talk 11:35, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
• Keep - Has obviously been part of a political boycott. sources are available to be added. bad shape article but that is not a reason for deletion, articles can and should be fixed. We do not evaluate article standard but article notability. also per WP:GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:54, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

@BabbaQ -- as the nominator, I take offense at "Has obviously been part of a political boycott", and am equally confused as to what you are talking about. If you wish to debate the quality or wisdom of the nomination, that is one thing; throwing around nonsensical accusations of political bias is quite another. Quis separabit? 18:52, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

@Rms125a@hotmail.com - And I should not "take offense" to your rationale for deletion? "Delete: as non-notable singer." - what is that? Come one. And for the rest of your comment, it is just nonsense. Come up with a better rationale for deletion instead of throwing a tantrum. BabbaQ (talk) 17:43, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

@BabbaQ: No, you shouldn't take offense at me because I did not initiate this squabble by claiming you had a "political boycott" in an AFD you had initiated as the motive for this AFD, which it is not. I nominated Irwin Smigel for deletion, so am I anti-Jewish American dentists?? You basically accused me of bigotry and I should bring this entire incident to ANI for an admin opinion.

And as far as not understanding what "non-notable singer" means, while I wouldn't have thought that difficult to understand, as everyone else seems to understand it, I will spell it out for you: She does not, IMO, meet the threshold for notability as her entire career -- according to her article which as far as I know you have not bothered to update or improve in any way since the AFD started -- consists of NOT appearing (for whatever reasons) at "the first ever Eurovision Song Contest hosted by Israel". And what she would have sung ("Seviyorum") had she shown up is irrelevant. Quis separabit? 21:53, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

• Keep The article is about somebody who was entitled to represent her country in Eurovision Song Contest. She is notable enough. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. SSTflyer 12:21, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 23:01, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

• Keep per Eurovision involvement and also, looking at timeline, we will need to find pre-google sources to do a lot of work here, so again, an example of quality versus notability. Notability is met. Montanabw^(talk) 07:01, 5 November 2016 (UTC)