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List of US states by minimum wage

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All information on this page is already included in Minimum wage in the United States. Numberguy6 (talk) 23:13, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

• Keep. Oh please. The need for notable list articles is a long settled issue. The topic of US state minimum wages is a notable topic. See:

Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists

Lists of U.S. state topics

List of lists of lists

Category:Lists of lists

Wikipedia:Contents/Lists

Minimum wage in the United States is a massive comprehensive article, not a list article.

--Timeshifter (talk) 08:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Certainly it's a list article (though not exclusively). See Minimum wage in the United States#List by jurisdiction. TompaDompa (talk) 08:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

It's a massive prose article with some lists too. --Timeshifter (talk) 10:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

• Redirect to Minimum wage in the United States per nom and WP:CFORK. Ajf773 (talk) 10:36, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:Content forking actually recommends spin-off articles as the main article grows. "This is acceptable, and often encouraged, as a way of making articles clearer and easier to manage." --Timeshifter (talk) 13:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
• Redirect to Minimum wage in the United States, especially since Wikipedia is not supposed to take a presentist view. That way we can have text not just on the current minimum wage, but changes over time, also mention states that have mechinisms to increse the minimum wage (here in Michigan where I live there are built in adjustments up that do not require legisltive intervention), also we can cover cities/counties that have higher rates than the state they are in. No reason for a seperate list.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:35, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
  • The list article has some of the changes over time. But I see your point. The solution is to move the rest of the tables from the main article (see: Minimum wage in the United States#List by jurisdiction) and put them below the existing table in the list article. I support that. That way you have a summary table followed by more detailed tables. I don't tend to help with updating tables buried in prose articles. That is because they are more difficult to maintain due to all the prose edits mixed in too. It burdens my watchlist. Tables in list articles are often more up to date for this reason.--Timeshifter (talk) 14:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:56, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
• Redirect Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States#State and Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States#State_laws have the same information this article has, and its better suited there with the rest of the relevant information. I see no benefit in splitting it off to a separate page. Dream Focus 23:29, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
  • See my reply to John Pack Lambert. All the lists can be moved to the list article page. In fact, the prose article is way too long, and parts should be spun off according to these pages:
  • Wikipedia:Article size
  • Wikipedia:Summary style
  • Information for "Minimum wage in the United States"
  • --Timeshifter (talk) 00:27, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

• Comment. You don't see people trying to move List of countries by minimum wage into the prose article Minimum Wage. Even though there are sections in the prose article with additional info on countries. That's because the prose article is already long. As is the list article. They shouldn't be combined. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:39, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
• Speedy redirect Baffled why this was created when the main article's right there with this info. I see no need for a separate article just for the table and map, but reorganization of the main page may be appropriate. Reywas92^Talk 02:23, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
  • A lot of people prefer a list article when all they want is quicker access to the data. Versus a TL;DR long prose article with the lists buried within. See previous replies as to why Wikipedia recommends this. The rest of the tables need to be moved to the list article. TL;DR is short for "too long; didn't read". --Timeshifter (talk) 02:51, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

• Notice left at Talk:Minimum wage in the United States. I think this AFD should be extended long enough to get more opinions from actual editors of either the list or prose articles. So far, it seems that mainly only deletionists have commented. No one other than me seems to actually be reading or replying to the actual Wikipedia guidelines and policies I have posted. The editors at the prose article might consider moving the rest of the tables to the list article. That would solve all the problems mentioned so far by commenters wanting all the detailed list data to be together. --Timeshifter (talk) 03:21, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
• Redirect Whole content already exists at Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States#State_laws. Rustam Fan (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
• Keep No reason needed. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Mirza Ahmed (talk) 12:28, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

That makes no sense. Rustam Fan (talk) 13:43, 7 July 2022 (UTC)