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Michael Chaplin (actor)

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Subject does not appear to have won any awards nor appeared in any well-known movies nor have been the subject of non-trivial discussion in multiple reliable independent secondary sources. Current references (2) consist of a link to the subject's personal website and a link to IMDb, which lacks independence. A Google search turns up Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and this article. Having been the descendant of Charlie Chaplin does not confer notability (per WP:NOTINHERITED). KDS4444 (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

• Comment: I found an article from the 1960s, in the New York Times. It looks like there was a court case over his book, which he lost. Apparently he wrote it with some ghostwriters, which wasn't mentioned in the Wikipedia article but is mentioned in the NYT article. I also added the filmography section and removed the corresponding part in the article, which was fairly puffy. His only major role was A King in New York and the other roles are all walk ons, non-notable, or uncredited. I'll see what I can find, but it looks like his book was fairly solidly ignored and Kirkus is (so far) the only actual review I've found. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• It appears that the court case got written up in a few academic sources. Now his role in A King in New York was substantial enough to where it gets mentioned on occasion and I get the impression that at the time, the court case was fairly major. However I'm a little uncomfortable keeping the article on these sources, as the main reason his role got attention in the movie was because of who his father was and the court case doesn't have so much coverage now that it'd be a slam dunk keep. I'm leaning towards maybe merging this into one of his parents' articles with 2-3 lines about him being an actor and the court case. Deciding where to add it would be the biggest issue. I'm really not finding much out there that is actually about him - the majority of sourcing just shows him commenting on his late father. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:25, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• It looks like there are a lot of articles on Chaplin's kids with Oona up for deletion and so far I'm leaning towards a section in their mother's page for the lot of them. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:27, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
• Redirect to Charlie Chaplin as best connected there, overall article is still questionable for independence. SwisterTwister talk 00:07, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:45, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:01, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:13, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 23:54, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

• At minimum the book and court case should be covered. I don't have a strong policy stance on whether we keep this article vs. move that content somewhere else, but it should not be deleted. I'm comfortable keeping and leaving determination of where to put the information up to those who edit the content, although the suggestion by Tokyogirl79 strikes me as reasonable, at least until more and better sources can be found. -- RM 02:53, 22 May 2016 (UTC)