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Hello {{U|TapticInfo}}, as an editor who's laser focused on the South African side of the encyclopedia I noticed that ''[[Independent Online]]'' and ''[[TimesLIVE]]'' where identified as marginally reliable or no consensus ({{color|khaki|yellow}}) from generally reliable ({{color|green|green}}) by the [[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter|CiteHighliter]] script, and when I reached out to the {{U|Novem Linguae|script writer}} ([[User talk:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter#TimesLIVE and IOL|here]]), I was told that the domains were moved here but I do not see any discussion where consensus to move the sites was reached. ''TimesLIVE'' was deemed reliable by admin {{U|Dodger67}} approximately 11 years ago [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 150#http://www.timeslive.co.za/|here]] ({{U|Park3r}} raised concern about ''IOL'' [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 391#https://iol.co.za|here]]) and consensus was reached last year making the aforementioned sites and ''[[The South African]]'' reliable at [[WP:NPPSG#South Africa|WP:NPPSG]] citing [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 418#South African sources|this discussion]]. After creating the articles [[Nandipha Magudumana]] and ''[[Tracking Thabo Bester]]'' I noticed that ''[[GroundUp (news agency)|GroundUp]]'' suddenly turned {{color|green|green}} out of nowhere and it was never assessed at [[WP:RS/Noticeboard]], was it because of the airing of ''Tracking Thabo Bester'' on [[Showmax]] and how they gave information on apprehending the most searched individual in 2023 in South Africa? I truly think you're doing a great job but wiki is a collaborative site where '''users''' come together to work on a certain task, so my question is {{tq|why was the above-mentioned sites moved from reliable to no consensus?}} I'll be on the lookout for your response {{thank you}}. '''<span style="color:Purple">dxneo</span>''' ([[User talk:dxneo|talk]]) 01:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello {{U|TapticInfo}}, as an editor who's laser focused on the South African side of the encyclopedia I noticed that ''[[Independent Online]]'' and ''[[TimesLIVE]]'' where identified as marginally reliable or no consensus ({{color|khaki|yellow}}) from generally reliable ({{color|green|green}}) by the [[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter|CiteHighliter]] script, and when I reached out to the {{U|Novem Linguae|script writer}} ([[User talk:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter#TimesLIVE and IOL|here]]), I was told that the domains were moved here but I do not see any discussion where consensus to move the sites was reached. ''TimesLIVE'' was deemed reliable by admin {{U|Dodger67}} approximately 11 years ago [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 150#http://www.timeslive.co.za/|here]] ({{U|Park3r}} raised concern about ''IOL'' [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 391#https://iol.co.za|here]]) and consensus was reached last year making the aforementioned sites and ''[[The South African]]'' reliable at [[WP:NPPSG#South Africa|WP:NPPSG]] citing [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 418#South African sources|this discussion]]. After creating the articles [[Nandipha Magudumana]] and ''[[Tracking Thabo Bester]]'' I noticed that ''[[GroundUp (news agency)|GroundUp]]'' suddenly turned {{color|green|green}} out of nowhere and it was never assessed at [[WP:RS/Noticeboard]], was it because of the airing of ''Tracking Thabo Bester'' on [[Showmax]] and how they gave information on apprehending the most searched individual in 2023 in South Africa? I truly think you're doing a great job but wiki is a collaborative site where '''users''' come together to work on a certain task, so my question is {{tq|why was the above-mentioned sites moved from reliable to no consensus?}} I'll be on the lookout for your response {{thank you}}. '''<span style="color:Purple">dxneo</span>''' ([[User talk:dxneo|talk]]) 01:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

:Hey, Sorry for the late response, life has been crazy.
:My intention with all “Usable but be cautious” sources are that they are still green, just that certain articles from those sources might be biased. [[User:TapticInfo|TapticInfo]] ([[User talk:TapticInfo|talk]]) 17:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

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Hello TapticInfo, as an editor who's laser focused on the South African side of the encyclopedia I noticed that Independent Online and TimesLIVE where identified as marginally reliable or no consensus (yellow) from generally reliable (green) by the CiteHighliter script, and when I reached out to the script writer (here), I was told that the domains were moved here but I do not see any discussion where consensus to move the sites was reached. TimesLIVE was deemed reliable by admin Dodger67 approximately 11 years ago here (Park3r raised concern about IOL here) and consensus was reached last year making the aforementioned sites and The South African reliable at WP:NPPSG citing this discussion. After creating the articles Nandipha Magudumana and Tracking Thabo Bester I noticed that GroundUp suddenly turned green out of nowhere and it was never assessed at WP:RS/Noticeboard, was it because of the airing of Tracking Thabo Bester on Showmax and how they gave information on apprehending the most searched individual in 2023 in South Africa? I truly think you're doing a great job but wiki is a collaborative site where users come together to work on a certain task, so my question is why was the above-mentioned sites moved from reliable to no consensus? I'll be on the lookout for your response Thank you. dxneo (talk) 01:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Sorry for the late response, life has been crazy.
My intention with all “Usable but be cautious” sources are that they are still green, just that certain articles from those sources might be biased. TapticInfo (talk) 17:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]