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I did not get much information about the design and architecture of [[Antilia (building)]], but [http://www.sterlingengg.com/newsletter/Sterling_Newsletter_2.pdf this page] from Sterling Engineering (who were the consultants for the building) has the details that can be used. [[User:Jay|Jay]] ([[User talk:Jay|talk]]) 07:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
I did not get much information about the design and architecture of [[Antilia (building)]], but [http://www.sterlingengg.com/newsletter/Sterling_Newsletter_2.pdf this page] from Sterling Engineering (who were the consultants for the building) has the details that can be used. [[User:Jay|Jay]] ([[User talk:Jay|talk]]) 07:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Jay}} near as I can tell the answers are yes and yes. The policy at [[WP:PRIMARY|PRIMARY]] is clear that such sources can be used but only with care. In addition I believe [[WP:ABOUTSELF|ABOUTSELF]] also applies due to the close connection. Hence, I wouldn't use it to extoll the virtues of the design, but if you stick to a {{tq|just the facts ma'am}} approach I think you'll be fine. Relatedly, this page is little watched at present, and I'm not all that active either so you may have better luck getting prompt feedback at one of the noticeboards or the [[WP:HELPDESK|HELPDESK]] in the future. {{ppor}}{{pb}}<span style="background-color:#EEE; font-size: 1.2em; padding:.15em .45em;"><b>[[User:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">&#119980;</span>]][[User_Talk:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">&#120084;</span>]]</b></span> 23:18, 19 October 2021 (UTC)


==[[Flatiron Building]] RfC==
==[[Flatiron Building]] RfC==

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Secondary sources

Can content from a company's newsletter be used as reference for an article of a skyscraper if the company was involved in the building's construction? Does this make the company a primary source?

I did not get much information about the design and architecture of Antilia (building), but this page from Sterling Engineering (who were the consultants for the building) has the details that can be used. Jay (talk) 07:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jay: near as I can tell the answers are yes and yes. The policy at PRIMARY is clear that such sources can be used but only with care. In addition I believe ABOUTSELF also applies due to the close connection. Hence, I wouldn't use it to extoll the virtues of the design, but if you stick to a just the facts ma'am approach I think you'll be fine. Relatedly, this page is little watched at present, and I'm not all that active either so you may have better luck getting prompt feedback at one of the noticeboards or the HELPDESK in the future. (please ping on reply)
𝒬𝔔 23:18, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This RfC may be of interest to the members of this project. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion may be of interest to the members of this WikiProject. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:12, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

name change

In July 2021, Essex on the Park became known as "Sentral Michigan Avenue". I am unable to document this marketing name change. Help please.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:55, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I.e., I can't find a secondary source although I have included the website in the infobox.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:31, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@TonyTheTiger: I don't think there's any issue with using a WP:PRIMARY source to support a mention in the article that the official name has changed. However, since there are secondary sources using the old name but not yet the new one, I would refrain from moving the article until secondary sources pick up on the new name as well. 81.177.27.61 (talk) 20:03, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mirax-Plaza Ukraine#Requested move 12 July 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ) 01:49, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AFD discussion ongoing, about List of future tallest buildings

Please consider participating at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of future tallest buildings. --Doncram (talk) 04:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

basic concept of list-articles not understood, see AFD on Pedimental sculptures in Canada

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pedimental sculptures in Canada. IMO, the basic concept of list-articles in Wikipedia is not understood by some participants in this AFD. Please consider contributing. --Doncram (talk) 05:03, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]