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the number of recordings of opera available on Wikipedia has increased dramatically inthe last year. Anyone mind if I re-evaluate, and choose, say, two or three to illustrate each section? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think one or two are sufficient. Note that sound samples seemingly cannot be positioned at the left of a page and have the text wrap around them, the way they allow text to flow when the sound is positioned on the right. This limits the available spots in an article where sound files can be placed, unless an in-line template is used, e.g.
[…] Bizet composed Carmen (Toreador Song), which, once […]
I'm not sure this will meet universal approval, so positioning audio files on the right seems to be the only sensible option. In that case, I doubt there is enough space to provide two or three for each section whithout creating big expanses of empty space. Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. These {{listen}} templates are big 'n' ugly with an entirely unnecessary clunky image of a blaring loudspeaker and a way too large play button. Unless or until these can be made plainer and more compact and with a full capacity to float either left or right, only one should be used in a short section. They are intrusive into the text and significantly distort the format, creating reader-unfriendly and aesthetically displeasing chunks of white space. All these files also appear in the linked articles, there's no need to have so many in the main overview article. There, rant finished. :-) - Voceditenore (talk) 09:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
One per section would be enough, unless the huge footprint of these files can be reduced. The loudspeaker image should be cut out. --Kleinzach 10:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to report that following a request the left-floating property of the template has now been enabled.
Note: the "plain" option in the template allows some reduction of the footprint, as shown on the left. Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good, however I tried the 'plain' option and couldn't get it to work. How is it done? --Kleinzach 03:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that the parameter plain=yes prevents the box to float at the right margin. I raised that point at Template talk:Listen and expect it to be fixed soon. In the meantime, one can work around this deficiency by adding style=float:right when plain=yes is used. Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I've tried to implement this in the article. --Kleinzach 05:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]